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[–] PhlubbaDubba@lemm.ee 23 points 4 months ago (3 children)

It is official it's just that it's membership and leadership isn't.

Anonymous is basically just a mask for greyhats to operate under when attacking targets who can backlash more specific groups.

Would not be surprised at all if some anonymous hacks were committed by already known hacker collectives who knew they had something big but wanted to avoid retaliation.

[–] JoMiran@lemmy.ml 9 points 4 months ago (2 children)

greyhats

I prefer the term "hacker activists" which can include blackhats, greyhats, and sometimes whitehats that get angry enough that, even if they do not actively participate in an attack, they can provide resources of all sorts.

[–] PhlubbaDubba@lemm.ee 10 points 4 months ago (1 children)

I distinguish Blackhat and Greyhat along the morality of the act itself, rule breaking for noble cause is grey, and for selfish cause is black.

[–] kautau@lemmy.world 9 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago) (1 children)

And you'd be correct. Also a white hat is someone who is usually paid by an org to pen test them https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/White_hat_(computer_security).

If, outside of what they normally apply their hacking abilities to they are participating in this, they are all grey hats on this blessed day

[–] PhlubbaDubba@lemm.ee 2 points 4 months ago (1 children)

It's Edward Hopper painting characters in grey trench coats all the way down!

[–] kautau@lemmy.world 2 points 4 months ago (1 children)

Ah my thought just went to the Gandalf epic sax guy in a rendering lab meme, but I’m a child of the internet

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=asjQNZn7vng

[–] brbposting@sh.itjust.works 3 points 4 months ago

lol the second lab

[–] imPastaSyndrome@lemm.ee 2 points 4 months ago

Not hacktavists? One of the few portmanteaus that don't drive me crazy :)

[–] match@pawb.social 6 points 4 months ago (2 children)

Is there any difference between "the hacker group Anonymous" and "an anonymous hacker group" now?

[–] PhlubbaDubba@lemm.ee 6 points 4 months ago

Yeah, whether anonymous puts a statement out taking credit

[–] marzhall@lemmy.world 3 points 4 months ago

There never was, all the way back to day one. Any given "operation" may or may not have overlapped in membership. The name is literal, and always has been; but with it comes a set of meanings and tropes (the mask, "we will not forgive, we will not forget, we are legion") that a given actor taking the name can invoke as a call to action for others, or use to simply mask their identity.

[–] ogmios@sh.itjust.works -4 points 4 months ago

They're almost certainly a sock puppet for state actors most of the time.