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Yeah. I would also imagine that a place like Beehaw is going to attract bad actors and trolls who want to wreck the place at the expense of Beehaw users, who specifically joined in order to have a community of nice people to hang out with.
the vibe here on kbin is I think very similar to what you might find on more serious subreddits or on something like hacker news. we're interested in content, discussion, etc. but there's not really overt trolling. I rarely see "shitposting" and other stuff as well. If you think "nerds who wanna talk about stuff and share news/content" you've got the right gist. I don't really think anyone I've seen here would go out of there way to cause problems. but kbin does have open signups (not invite).
idk what the mindset is for lemmy, beehaw, and the rest of the fediverse, but I think due to the long downtime for federation here on kbin there's this vibe of "we have kbin stuff, and then we have stuff from those other guys" It's to the point where someone quickly made a script to be able to easily see where someone is posting from.
In that regard, it's always very obvious to me when I'm among beehaw users and in beehaw communities. same for when I'm in lemmy spaces, or kbin spaces. whereas I think lemmy users may not know or care about that distinction. Though this might just be my own musing and others aren't thinking like that haha.
Oh? What makes beehaw users different and recognizable?
beehaw stands out among the lemmy instances because of the unique culture.
so idk how things work over on the lemmy instances and beehaw, but here when we get threads from other sites, the logo of the site is shown pretty blatantly. likewise the url is clearly visible. In beehaw's case, just looking around there it seems pretty strictly moderated with a certain cultural/style emphasis. Maybe not obvious at first glance, but reading some of the ethos pages makes it clear.
It's a very... "tumblr" vibe. So beehaw defederating from lemmy.world isn't really a surprise.
Like to me the different instances have different "feels" to them. and on kbin they're clearly marked so it's obvious. it's further emphasized as i said by the fact that we were isolated for a while.
The advantage Beehaw has is the way the communities are organized - so much neater than in other instances. Every community on there is a giant hub, making these communities more visible and active than what we see on lemmy.ml and lemmy.world, and to some extent kbin.
Well thats mostly the case because only the admins on Beehaw can open new communities.
Really? The tone in Beehaw is obvious yeah, but I thought the tone for kbin and lemmy was slightly similar -- unless things really changed in the few days when federation was down (which is possible)
I wasn't here before kbin's federation went down, but rather joined during that time with most everyone else. I do think the tone and "feel" between kbin and lemmy is similar for sure, and I think a lot of that is probably due to mutual ex-reddit culture. but while federation was down there was a lot of kbin users saying things like "it's a bit better like this because we build up a kbin culture, and understand things better" and "we can build up kbin communities so we're less reliant on other instances".
I think lemmy just ended up with the "everything reddit" culture, while kbin ended up with a more reserved technical reddit culture. Though that might just be my perspective (and not shared with others). But I can understand why beehaw defederated with lemmy and not kbin. even though it kinda feels like we're next lol.
Yeah, I do wonder if Beehaw is just block happy. I am scared of clicking on their list of banned instances (like if it's really shitty stuff that no sane human can look at), but they have blocked almost 400 instances.
They haven't blocked the main Lemmy one though. I'm guessing the main Lemmy instance has gotten better with the reddit migration.
What they did was the following : they defederated with Top 2 and Top 4 from what I understand (2 of the top 5).
For, reference Lemmy.ml has 35k users, Lemmy.world around 20-25k ish, shitjustworks 10k, beehaw 10k. Then theres a lot of small lemmy instances beehaw hasn't banned which go from a few hundred to a few thousand. The numbers might be slightly off since the user count tools are having issues on the lemmy side of things.
I feel like KBin is one of those "we only show our magazines by default, but if you're an advanced user or you want to explore the fediverse a bit more, we have that option too, and you can even subscribe to federated communities/magazines" type of sites in the fediverse.
nope. that was the case for a while, when the federation wasn't working right. but now it pretty openly shows threads from across the fediverse.