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The former president has always considered himself to be the ultimate disrupter. But this time, the disruption is on the other side.

Through the weekend, there were an awful lot of questions that were going back and forth from people in the president’s tightest circle, and one of the questions that kept being asked was whether Joe Biden was going to endorse Kamala Harris or not. And the question didn’t revolve around whether he wanted to or not, but whether people in her camp thought it would be better for her to fight for it, win it on her own, and not be seen as somebody who was tapped by President Biden and so, in her own way, have a fresh start going into the campaign.

So the timing seems to be about as good as it could have been to end what has just been one of the craziest two or three weeks in American politics in quite some time.

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[–] simplejack@lemmy.world 189 points 4 months ago (4 children)

He’s already trying to weasel out of the next debate. He’s scared.

[–] disguy_ovahea@lemmy.world 141 points 4 months ago (27 children)

Can you blame him? Kamala was a District Attorney and an Attorney General. Even a competent opponent who based their arguments on facts would be intimidated.

Trump wouldn’t stand a chance on that stage.

[–] eestileib@sh.itjust.works 99 points 4 months ago (3 children)

And if he ducks out hopefully she'll call him a coward. Repeatedly.

[–] hitmyspot@aussie.zone 93 points 4 months ago (2 children)

She should start calling him a coward before they start negotiation. He can't stand women talking crap about him. A woman of color, he'd have a canary.

[–] RaoulDook@lemmy.world 48 points 4 months ago (2 children)

A canary in the old mind, that's how the saying goes

[–] macaro@lemmy.blahaj.zone 15 points 4 months ago (2 children)

I thought it was a coronary in the gold mine.

[–] quicklime@lemm.ee 2 points 4 months ago

All this talk of coronation recently is making me dizzy.

[–] perviouslyiner@lemmy.world 2 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago)

Marty isn't the only Back To The Future character it works on?

[–] ilinamorato@lemmy.world 41 points 4 months ago (1 children)

I hope that Harris (or whoever) goes WAY more on the offensive than Biden did. Honestly I think that's where his age showed the most sharply; he was just too nice, even when he was "Dark Brandon."

[–] Ensign_Crab@lemmy.world 11 points 4 months ago

I hope that Harris (or whoever) goes WAY more on the offensive than Biden did.

That wouldn't be difficult.

[–] Myxomatosis@lemmy.world 21 points 4 months ago

Getting called a coward by a woman will break his brain beyond what it is now.

[–] Buffalox@lemmy.world 36 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago) (1 children)

IDK, considering the MAGA crowd consider Trump lies better than facts, because everybody know by now, that facts have a liberal bias.

[–] 14th_cylon@lemm.ee 52 points 4 months ago (2 children)

the fight is not for maga votes, it is for the undecided morons in the middle.

[–] ryathal@sh.itjust.works 34 points 4 months ago (3 children)

The fight is against the couch, idiot undecided voters are basically a coin toss. Getting 80%+ of your supporters to actually vote for you is all you really need.

Nothing was more demoralizing than Biden in the last debate. Trump against someone under 60 could have the same thing happen to him.

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[–] Buffalox@lemmy.world 14 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago) (2 children)

The undecided will be gaslighted too. Are you really sugesting Trump would try to use reason to sway the undecided?
Trump has only one mode, and that's narcissistic pathological liar.

[–] 14th_cylon@lemm.ee 10 points 4 months ago (1 children)

Are you really sugesting Trump would try to use reason to sway the undecided?

no, i am suggesting that primary goal of democratic candidate is not to go after maga voters.

[–] Buffalox@lemmy.world 2 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago)

He needs to capture his base too, and make sure as many of them as possible will vote, without them the marginal voters are irrelevant.
Trump will use stupid arguments and lies, and look like he is winning. That's how he built the MAGA crowd, and that's the system he will continue to use.
The undecided he manages to convince to vote for him, will then be supporting MAGA by definition, even if they aren't as batshit crazy as the hardcore MAGA supporters.

[–] hitmyspot@aussie.zone 7 points 4 months ago (1 children)

No, but a good and clear debater, like an experienced lawyer that she is, would blow him apart. Biden was an effective politician and debated pretty well, but its not his forte in the same way.

[–] Buffalox@lemmy.world 4 points 4 months ago

It would be cool if Harris can expose Trump, like Obama exposed Romney in their 2nd debate.

[–] pigup@lemmy.world 6 points 4 months ago (1 children)

I vaguely remember her debate against Mike pence, her performance was not to impressive. The fly helped. I wonder if they will let her a bit looser on the pedo

[–] ImpressiveEssay@lemmy.world 2 points 4 months ago

She's been VP for a few years since then. I hope she goes for the jugular... (Metharphorically of course. Seeing as maga is suddenly quite shocked about violent language LOL)

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[–] Lucidlethargy@sh.itjust.works 25 points 4 months ago

He won't debate her. He's too chicken shit to do it.

[–] Empricorn@feddit.nl 24 points 4 months ago

It will never happen. Trump is such a fucking coward. But his supporters are perfectly fine with this being the first election year without a debate between the candidates...

[–] zephorah@lemm.ee 8 points 4 months ago

Kamala would wipe the floor with him. Toss him upside down and use his head as a mop.