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[–] ArbitraryValue@sh.itjust.works 21 points 3 months ago (6 children)

The murder rate in the USA is very high compared to its peers, at 6.383 per 100,000. Canada, for example, has a rate which is almost three times lower at 2.273 per 100,000.

Brazil has a murder rate of 20.606 per 100,000. I think I'll stick with our tipping culture and lack of public health system.

[–] SpaceNoodle@lemmy.world 14 points 3 months ago

Or maybe check out Canada instead

[–] Rookwood@lemmy.world 7 points 3 months ago

Pretty sure Brazilian GINI is higher than US even. Not a good comparison. But most of Europe is better than us, we rank with the former Soviet Slavic countries in terms of HDI when adjusted for GINI. Canada as you mentioned, probably Australia.

[–] brbposting@sh.itjust.works 6 points 3 months ago (1 children)

Thank goodness this was downvoted! It’s so offensive. Or something. 🙄

Why so high here vs. Canadia?

[–] ArbitraryValue@sh.itjust.works 9 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago) (3 children)

That's an interesting question. People like to blame guns, but

The United States’ homicide rate of 3.8 is clearly higher than that of eg France (1.0), Germany (0.8), Australia (1.1), or Canada (1.4). However, as per the FBI, only 11,208 of our 16,121 murders were committed with firearms, eg 69%. By my calculations, that means our nonfirearm murder rate is 1.2. In other words, our non-firearm homicide rate alone is higher than France, Germany, and Australia’s total homicide rate.

That's from here, which is an interesting but long discussion of the topic:

https://slatestarcodex.com/2016/01/06/guns-and-states/

https://slatestarcodex.com/2016/01/10/guns-and-states-2-son-of-a-gun/

Edit: I'm not saying guns aren't part of the explanation, but they don't appear to account for the majority of the difference.

[–] MBM@lemmings.world 4 points 3 months ago

Ah, SSC. I was going to make a joke about how it'll get blamed on ~~black people~~ Human Biodiversity, but Scott actually does

And this is murder rate by state correlated with percent black population:

This would seem to support the “culture of violence” theory.

[–] rickyrigatoni@lemm.ee 1 points 3 months ago

I think it mostly has to do with all the brain damaging chemicals in our water, soil, and air.

[–] Hugh_Jeggs@lemm.ee -1 points 3 months ago (1 children)

A massive percentage of yous have been huffing leaded petrol fumes almost directly from exhausts for decades and yous are still wondering why you're a bunch of murderous warmongering cunts? 😂

[–] NegativeInf@lemmy.world 2 points 3 months ago

What do you mean yous? That was global lead contamination baby! Hence the last ditch far right swings internationally. I also attribute it to brain damage from COVID. And microplastics. And the Teflon in all our blood. I just hope there was enough education along the way to diffuse some of those violent tendencies with democratic principles.

But yes, in general, I agree. We are a bunch of pollutant filled war mongers on our worst days.

[–] callyral@pawb.social 3 points 3 months ago

I'm brazilian and I was never murdered (joke)

[–] rickyrigatoni@lemm.ee 0 points 3 months ago

I'd say something about throwing stones in glass houses but most brazilians can't seem to afford glass windows.