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“Today I want to offer my full support and endorsement for Kamala to be the nominee of our party this year. Democrats — it’s time to come together and beat Trump. Let’s do this,” he added.

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[–] memfree@beehaw.org 24 points 4 months ago (2 children)

At least for now, I am hopeful. All sorts of other countries have elected women. The U.S. should get with it. I know there will be people who say, "Maybe, but not THAT woman" -- but those people always say that about any woman, so that's never going to be the base.

[–] neidu2@feddit.nl 12 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago)

Yeah, I'm thinking along the same lines. The people not wanting to vote for that woman is sure has hell not going to vote for Whitmer, for example. And they didn't want to vote for that woman in 2016 either.

[–] FlashMobOfOne@beehaw.org 8 points 4 months ago (1 children)

The 49% who always vote Republican will always vote for whoever's nominated.

The 49% who vote Democrat will always vote for whoever's nominated.

You're trying to pull the 1-2% who can be swayed here, and they're going to be reading lots of stories about Harris' tough-on-crime record where she ruthlessly pursued nonviolent drug users and people who skipped school.

Clinton had a ton of baggage too.

Pretending people just hate women is silly when you're picking women whose records are eminently hateable, especially so after none of you voted for Marianne Williamson in the primary.

[–] niucllos@lemm.ee 10 points 4 months ago (1 children)

It's more like the 30% who always vote R will vote for whoever, the 30% who always vote D will vote for whoever. Kamala's task is to get the 1-2% independents who always vote, yes, but also convince as many of the 40% who never bother showing up as possible to actually show up like some have started to in the last elections where reproductive healthcare/etc have been on the line. If she can motivate people for herself and simultaneously underscore that trump is an octogenarian with dreams of fascism and Project 2025 is what he would do, I think we'll have a landslide. That's a big if though.

[–] FlashMobOfOne@beehaw.org 3 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago) (1 children)

convince as many of the 40% who never bother showing up as possible to actually show up

That 40% has spent the last eight years having both parties emphasize to them, repeatedly, and daily, that they don't give a f*** about their economic security.

Why would they miss a badly needed day's pay to vote for either of these parties?

I think we're going to have another razor thing 49% election, personally.

[–] Minarble@aussie.zone 10 points 4 months ago

Biden should just declare election day- the day that defines the very nature of the nation, the day all Americans should do their patriotic duty and vote a national holiday.