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submitted 4 months ago by Linsensuppe@feddit.org to c/privacy@lemmy.ml

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Im considering buying a new phone and i don't really consider a Pixel. I really like Fairphones approach, with the self repairable stuff. Even though they don‘t have a headphone jack. But well… I can’t change it. I’ll definitely go with the adapter over wireless headphones.

But to my question: What private OSes are there? Fairphone sells FP4s with eOS, how is that? And does it work on the FP5? GrapheneOS only works on Google Pixels right?

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[–] shortwavesurfer@lemmy.zip 30 points 4 months ago (2 children)

In that case, have fun coding up your own bootloader and flashing it onto the device. If you can't trust the bootloader, then you can't trust anything at all from the operating system that sits on top of it, because it could be compromised. If you can't trust a bootloader, then the only thing you can trust is a pen and a piece of paper.

[–] possiblylinux127@lemmy.zip 2 points 4 months ago (1 children)

True but it feels like obscurity via obscurity.

[–] wildbus8979@sh.itjust.works 21 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago)

A huge part of the bootloader stack is opensource....

https://android.googlesource.com/platform/system/core/+/master/fastboot/

https://android.googlesource.com/trusty/lk/trusty/

https://android.googlesource.com/platform/external/avb/

[–] Chickerino@feddit.nl 1 points 4 months ago (1 children)

why dont we just put uefi on phones

[–] Cube6392@beehaw.org 1 points 4 months ago (1 children)

Phones don't use an IBM-PC architecture. You'd need a phone based on an architecture phones aren't usually based on or You'd need to re-engineer UEFI to work for an architecture it wasn't designed for

[–] vaionko@sopuli.xyz 3 points 4 months ago (1 children)

UEFI has supported ARM for years now...

[–] BearOfaTime@lemm.ee 1 points 4 months ago

And "phones don't use UEFI"