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[–] Awoo@hexbear.net 20 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago) (4 children)

Hogan has always been a hog. His lawsuit against Gawker actually considerably dented the online left, particularly harming feminists and I would argue that it gave way to the success of the red pill movement followed by gamergate. Had Gawker in its previous incarnation as a fucking powerhouse of edgy doxxing and investigative journalism continued to exist I am certain it would have significantly blunted the effects of these things that followed.

Fuck Hogan and fuck him for what he did to Gawker. https://archive.is/RaUC3

[–] BelieveRevolt@hexbear.net 22 points 5 months ago (1 children)

I've also heard that Jesse Ventura was trying to unionize pro wrestlers in the 80s, but Hogan ruined it by narcing to Vince McMahon. I don't know how true the story is, someone who knows more about wrestling can elaborate.

Hulk Hogan wowee

[–] autismdragon@hexbear.net 11 points 5 months ago

Thats true but I'm pretty sure thats also all we know about it so you already got all the details.

[–] Mindfury@hexbear.net 15 points 5 months ago (1 children)

Hogan's gawker lawsuit was basically a trojan horse for Peter Thiel to eliminate them, Thiel funded the whole thing

[–] Awoo@hexbear.net 12 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago) (1 children)

Yah I'm aware but fuck Hogan for going along with it. The level of damage is huge I can recall just how powerful and positive that shit was and losing it was genuinely a blow. Whatever criticism is levelled against some of their content is irrelevant, what followed was a very obvious slide rightwards that went completely unchallenged without their existence. I know they were libs but in their absence it became so fucking obvious that they were a leftwards pushing effect.

[–] Mindfury@hexbear.net 10 points 5 months ago

oh yeah, Hogan's a racist leathery pig - was just adding that the whole thing was orchestrated from the get-go

[–] oregoncom@hexbear.net 14 points 5 months ago (2 children)

Wasn't Gawker just celebrity gossip? If they were around today they'd probably just harass trans people or something. All the other outlets from that era like Vice and HuffPo are shitty.

[–] Awoo@hexbear.net 17 points 5 months ago (1 children)

Naw things like Jezebel (feminist site) were part of Gawker and significantly edgier at the time. The outing of Violentacrez, shut down of /r/jailbait and a bunch of other shit was one of Gawker's journalists too (adrian chen). Chen went on to criticise propaganda against Russia too. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Adrian_Chen

Not sure about what Chen is these days. Looks like he got arrested recently protesting about Gaza though which makes him better than half the establishment journos at least.

[–] BelieveRevolt@hexbear.net 8 points 5 months ago

I think you're right about her outing violentacrez, but Something Awful got r/jailbait shut down.

[–] autismdragon@hexbear.net 14 points 5 months ago

Taking down Gawker was a Peter Thiel project lol we do not want to support it or say it was good actually.

[–] Egon@hexbear.net 8 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago)

I am not going to be mad at Hogan for what he did to gawker. Don't show sex tapes of private people. Gawker was the forefront of arguing these things when celebrity nudes were leaked, but suddenly it was cute and funny when it happened to Hogan (and I think they also refused to take down a nude of Beiber at one point as well).
If Gawker didn't want to Get taken down by Peter Thiel, then it was probably a bad idea to host sex tapes against a court order.

Its kinda like what people said when there was an attempted colour revolution in Iran hinging on lgtbq and women's rights: If you don't suppress them, they can't be used against you