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submitted 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago) by Jonathan12345@lemmygrad.ml to c/china@lemmygrad.ml

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Since I'm currently in China I've been randomly browsing bilibili and under certain videos I have been noticing a certain insufferable group of ultras somehow even worse than (what I've seen of) western ones, who can obviously afford a device and internet yet claim to care for the poor oppressed masses and talk about how capital is destroying people's wills to live and stuff, and continuously use the term 'downtrodden masses'. One even said that modern society was just like in Lao She's Teahouse (where a lady had to sell her child to survive), and shifted the goalposts when asked about this by saying 'muh abductions!111!11!!

What I would like to know is, who are these people? Why are they like this? Given that most have obviously not experienced for themselves the massive improvement in quality of life between the 2000s and today, are they mostly too young and have too much free time, or are they petty bourgeoisie who also have too much free time? Am I looking at them the wrong way?

Would appreciate insights from those more knowledgeable than me, thanks.

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[–] Sodium_nitride@lemmygrad.ml 15 points 4 months ago (1 children)

Some of the things you are describing might suffer from poor phrasing, but they appear to be valid complaints from the chinese "ultras".

who can obviously afford a device and internet yet claim to care for the poor oppressed masses and talk about how capital is destroying people’s wills to live and stuff, and continuously use the term ‘downtrodden masses’.

Being able to afford a device and the Internet does not mean you can't care about the poor, who themselves also own devices and Internet connections these days (no other option in modern society).

And obviously china also has capital, which has the same soul sucking and destructive capacities in china as it does in the west. Just because capital doesn't have political dominance in china, does not mean it cannot have negative effects. In fact, many of the wins we celebrated recently have been the chinese state reigning in capital's destructive tendencies

One even said that modern society was just like in Lao She’s Teahouse (where a lady had to sell her child to survive), and shifted the goalposts when asked about this by saying 'muh abductions!111!11!!

This sounds like just a hyperbolic commentator. I mean, we like to compare our leaders and societies to messed up things in the past as well.

[–] Jonathan12345@lemmygrad.ml 5 points 4 months ago

You're right. I guess I was just put off by the fact that most of my experiences with them come from looking at records of past screaming matches, which I'm not really used to.