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[–] natecox@programming.dev 85 points 4 months ago (4 children)

Before you get really upset about this thread, you should read this other one: https://federate.social/@jik/112779924411100427

I’m not thrilled about this by any means, but what Firefox is doing is not what chrome is doing (which is what the op posted thread is claiming). Conflating them serves no one.

[–] tyler@programming.dev 49 points 4 months ago (1 children)

Can we please stop linking mastodon threads? Mozilla literally has an explainer article. https://support.mozilla.org/en-US/kb/privacy-preserving-attribution

[–] natecox@programming.dev 23 points 4 months ago (1 children)

People pissed at Firefox might not be as receptive of an article straight from Mozilla. Know your audience.

[–] slazer2au@lemmy.world 14 points 4 months ago (2 children)

Would you rather get second hand information or would you rather get the technical specifications from the horse's mouth?

I'd rather have both, and ideally a third by someone who has actually looked at the code to verify claims.

[–] geophysicist@discuss.tchncs.de -4 points 4 months ago

You completely ignored the point of the person you're replying to

[–] Vincent@feddit.nl 5 points 4 months ago (1 children)

It's pretty painful how quickly wrong information spreads. I'm sure it's not intentional, but that doesn't really make it better...

[–] tyler@programming.dev 0 points 4 months ago

Even in this actual thread, under the comment you replied to, someone stills thinks that Mozilla is placing ads.

[–] Melody@lemmy.one 5 points 4 months ago

I can say confidently that even if you don't conflate the two; the Mozilla implementation can be broken and abused just as easily as the Google one can be.

[–] dan@lemm.ee 4 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago) (1 children)

Interesting thread. But I don’t understand why the data needs to be collected and correlated by a third party, can’t the ads themselves detect views and clicks? (that’s what they need right?)

Or am I missing something about the process?

[–] tb_@lemmy.world 6 points 4 months ago (1 children)

The advertiser's don't place the ads themselves. They say where and when they are placed, but the actual placing/integration is done by the likes of Google, Facebook, and, in this case, Mozilla.

That's the "third party" that's doing the tracking.

[–] tyler@programming.dev 0 points 4 months ago

That’s not accurate. Mozilla isn’t placing the ads. Mozilla is storing impressions and then collating a privacy protecting report so that advertisers see that their ads are working, but not revealing information about the users to the advertisers. https://support.mozilla.org/en-US/kb/privacy-preserving-attribution