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[–] cyd@lemmy.world -4 points 4 months ago (2 children)

Lots of people seem keen to jump to this being staged. That makes zero sense: Trump was already winning before this, especially with Biden (his preferred opponent) looking to hang on to the nomination.

[–] enbyecho@lemmy.world 12 points 4 months ago (2 children)

Trump was already winning before this

Do you just not understand how elections work? You don't "win" before votes are cast.

[–] cyd@lemmy.world 1 points 4 months ago (1 children)

Are you being wilfully pedantic, or do you not know that it's possible to tell someone is ahead in a contest?

[–] perishthethought@lemm.ee 4 points 4 months ago (1 children)

Polls are worthless now and response rates are too low to matter.

https://www.scientificamerican.com/article/what-can-election-2024-polls-really-tell-us/

Or, is this just your gut talking?

[–] cyd@lemmy.world 0 points 4 months ago (1 children)

Polls have significant predictive power, especially when you poll reportedly and/or aggregate them. Which is why all political campaigns, R or D, spend literally millions running their own polling. Moreover, it's now July, the first convention is literally coming up within days, so the excuse of being "far out from the election" no longer holds.

[–] perishthethought@lemm.ee 2 points 4 months ago

Totally agree with your last statement. I think I was just saying we'll have to wait and see how this turns out.

[–] KillingTimeItself@lemmy.dbzer0.com -1 points 4 months ago (1 children)

winning in the court of public opinion

[–] GladiusB@lemmy.world 5 points 4 months ago (1 children)

Which public? That's their point. It's a snapshot of people that do enter polls. I'm too fuckin busy to take time out of my day for that. But I will vote.

the republican voters, obviously.

[–] droopy4096@lemmy.ca 2 points 4 months ago (2 children)

conspiracy theorist in me sees several venues where it is Very beneficial to POTUS45 to stage this:

  • finally come out as victim
  • frame Biden/CIA/FBI as villains
  • come out as "defiant" hero and rally support to the point where it's a landslide win, where he would be able to go after anybody and anything he doesn't like.

more wicked stuff comes to mind but I think above is sufficient . Fact that bullet grazed him and nobody around him in a tight setting is kind of strange, with his bravado on display with fist shaking. One can only dream for this election campaign video to be run on repe 24/7 on fox and other outlets, giving him more air time, and now that Biden asked everyone to read project2025 entire nation will be watching nothing but POTUS45. Still could be some morron that didn't get his signature at the rally pulling out his Beretta..

[–] jordanlund@lemmy.world 3 points 4 months ago (1 children)

Witness statement was that another attendee was shot in the head and killed and a 2nd in the forearm and hand.

[–] droopy4096@lemmy.ca 2 points 4 months ago

sounds like, indeed bystanders been hit according to latest information. I still believe that POTUS45 would be OK sacrificing any number of people as long as it gets him power. No evidence of his involvement but entire story "smells"

[–] btaf45@lemmy.world 1 points 4 months ago

There is no scenario where this helps Treason Trump. Now the entire world knows that Convicted Criminal and Sex Offender Treason Trump is so widely hated that people literally want to kill him. And now Treason Trump knows it too.