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[–] MsPenguinette@lemmy.world 69 points 4 months ago (2 children)

Because literally nobody is suprised by trump as this point. We all know what he is at this point. Biden popped the fascade that has been carefully crafted to keep us all thinking he was doing alright despite being old as fuck.

[–] dadarobot@lemmy.sdf.org 27 points 4 months ago (2 children)

100%. People want to act like it was a "bad debate performance" but it was absolutely eye opening to the american people. Its not about who won or lost a debate.

[–] jonne@infosec.pub 26 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago) (2 children)

And it's not like it's the first of those incidents. He fell off his bike, tripped getting on air force one, had a bunch of press conferences where he did the trailing off in the middle of his answer thing, etc.

And this isn't the only person democrats did this with either. They enabled Dianne Feinstein to run for reelection despite her being at deaths door, there's the RBG debacle, etc.

Democrats need to get better at refreshing the old guard. The only one that did it kind of right is Nancy Pelosi: groom a successor and step aside when the time is right.

[–] takeda@lemmy.world 4 points 4 months ago (2 children)

I love the argument about the bike, have you seen trump on a bike? There's a 99% chance that you don't ride a bike yourself.

BTW: he tripped, because he had to stop to talk with reporters and the predators had straps. It even happened to me and I'm much much younger than him.

[–] jonne@infosec.pub 10 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago) (1 children)

Maybe there's millions of qualified people other than Trump and Biden in the US? Why do Americans have to settle for just these 2? Why does Biden get to say he's the only one that could beat Trump, if that's objectively not true?

[–] theangryseal@lemmy.world -5 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago)

I can’t think of anyone else who could beat him. I really believed that Clinton could do it, and technically she did, but she didn’t beat him bad enough. A lot of people thought he was just playing himself up to win and wouldn’t be so bad once he got in (myself included). He showed them he wasn’t playing anything up and a vote against him got the largest turnout in history.

I really thought (and prayed, and begged the universe) that Sanders would get a shot.

Damn, what a mess. What a stressful, stressful, mess.

With a gay kid and a trans kid, I really do worry about their future. All we can do is ride the rock and hope for the best though. Well, that and vote against the dude who openly despises certain groups.

Edit:

Why didn’t you 9 name a candidate and why you think they’d win. Come on now, it’s a social forum. Get social.

Edit 2:

Chomp chomp. That’s me eating my words and praying I’m wrong on 7/21

[–] timbuck2themoon@sh.itjust.works 1 points 4 months ago

The salient point- Biden does things better DAILY than Trump did in 4 years and we're still somehow focusing on stupid shit.

[–] rwhitisissle@lemmy.world 4 points 4 months ago

Democrats are so ego driven that they think death itself cannot claim them at a moment's notice. I think this is part of the facade of the Democrats people are, unfortunately, going to respond to this election: Democrats, as a party, like to present themselves as being all about compromise and caring. Getting things done for the #AmericanPeople. But when it's time to step down and let others shine in the limelight because you've had your time and the physical realities of age are something you have to acknowledge, or when there might be a better candidate for an election and you have to make the difficult choice of not getting what you want for the good of the country, that fucking sentiment disappears like a fart in the wind.

[–] wagesj45@kbin.run 8 points 4 months ago

How many people who previously hadn't been paying attention to the race tuned in and saw the same deterioration they've watched in their own parents and grandparents?

[–] Krauerking@lemy.lol 1 points 4 months ago

Well the facade was bound to pop eventually, it was just easy to keep when you have done 100 less press events than literally any president in the last 4 decades.

He's been really really just hidden away and relying on good press to do all the talking for him and that's now gone for sure.