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Can someone break this down for the non-british? Is this a good thing?
The center (slight left leaning) party won by a landslide because everyone was fed up with the right wing party who’d been in charge for 14 years.
The far-right party went from 0 to 13 seats in a single election (think the MAGA of england basically). Since the center-right party lost so bad, people are scared the far right party will have more influence on the right and ultimately lead to the center right party either merging with the far right party or being more radical to “meet them”.
One could make the parallels to when Macron won the election with a centrist coalition a couple years ago, but in the process heavily weakened the center right party, which ultimately lead to the rise of the far right.
Ignoring that though. The center-(left) government will be much better than the government we had before.
I'd say it's debatable that they are centre-left. I know they are labelled that everywhere, but Starmer has made notable shifts to the right (or at least towards centre) from the slow left movement since the very much centre-right New Labour of Blair.
Excellent citation! Thanks for sharing!
Reform got 4 seats, not 13, but they did get 15% of the vote
Reform are right-wing, but they're not far-right anymore than Jeremy Corbyn was apparently far-left.
Nigel Farrage’s party is almost certainly far right compared to the status quo.
I’m not being funny mate but ‘reform’ is just a rebranding of the fucking NF make no mistake. It’s three steps away from brownshirts mate that’s what it fucking is.
Hysterical nonsense, but I expect nothing less from Lemmy.
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Yes? There have been 20 candidates for the Green Party who were investigated for anti-semitism.
Let's not pretend that cranks only exist in Reform UK.
I'm not pretending just pointing out that we are talking about Nazis.
Would you have said the same of UKIP?
Yes. UKIP now are far-right (hence why you don't hear of them anymore), but they were just a plain old Thatcherite right-wing party under Farage.
It's a big deal because the Conservatives have been in power for the last 14 years and everyone is sick of the sight of them. Current projections show that this may be their worst showing ever.
Their main rivals, Labour, are going to dominate on a centrist platform, even though they are not promising much in the way of reform or change.
The biggest downside is that the Trumpish Reform party are looking like they'll do quite well with xenophobic, right-wing, ex-Conservatives.
In Canadian terms, the Liberal part just got a majority after a long stretch of Conservative leadership, the ones that broke from NAFTA.
Something of concern is that the People's Party actually got seats this election, even more than the Bloc. And the Green part got another seat, so there's that.
The Tories (UK Republican clones) are getting a clobbering. But not as bad as some had hoped.
Now I’m a Lib Dem voter but the UK Conservatives are not clones of the Republicans no matter how many times the internet says they are. When the Republicans made abortion illegal the Tories condemned it, and while the Republicans are trying to make same-sex marriage illegal it was Tory led coalition when it got legalised in the UK, and they didn’t put it to the public vote, they just did it.
Yeah, the Conservative Party are actually far closer to the US Democrats, largely because American politics swings much further to the right.
It's amazing how people pontificate and say things with such certainty when they clearly don't pay any attention to the reality.
They're not as bad as the Republicans, but given how they have been acting in recent years in particular it is definitely not an entirely unfair comparison. They're ludicrously, dangerously angry at asylum seekers and trans people.
It is also worth noting that more Conservative MPs voted against same-sex marriage than for it, despite it being one of their own MPs that introduced it
Easy scapegoats thrown to the masses cause they have no excuses that will work for the way things have gone.
If you're a Labour supporter, yes. If you support the Conservatives, no. 😂