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They're not the only ones who forgot. It's crazy how many people I know who shun the idea of any form of action beyond general protest in the face of corruption. I always ask them how they think change is going to happen when we have protest after protest and nothing to show for them, but they never have an answer. Things are going to get a lot worse before people realize we need to fight for our rights, and being angry on the internet - or even in person with a sign - is no longer enough to make a change.
When violence is used to maintain the status quo, announcing up front that you're unwilling to use violence in response tells those in power that they need not listen to you.
The sad thing is that we don't even need to use violence. We have the power to bring this country to a halt with nothing more than a well organized revolt.
Just stay home and play board games for a week, don’t spend any money.
Things would change quick fast and in a hurry if a hundred million people all just took the end of July off.
That's not possible for a lot of people unless they're fine with starving. Additionally, prisoner's dilemma or some variant of that basically makes it impossible to do something like that, herding cats would be easier. World peace would be achieved if all soldiers refused to fight and yet that will never happen for a whole host of reasons.
This is why a network of support and organization during a protest is vital. Because you're going to have a lot of people in this position, so having some sort of place for donations and distribution of food/funds and a team to coordinate so the protests can continue uninterrupted is important. How to organize such a support network is a problem for people other than me who aren't introverts.
MLK was not the entirety of the civil rights movement and his legacy was whitewashed by Reagan to distort history. MLK also understood that, "riots are the language of the unheard." Riots occurred because civil rights were not given when they asked nicely.
Perhaps the whitewashed, watered down MLK would beg to differ. He's been reduced to like three quotes for people to slap on their Facebook profiles; for companies to paste on their messaging in February; to be trotted out once a year like Weekend at Bernie's so people can feel the warm fuzzies inside and ignore actual, real-world racism and violence that is happening right now.
It's like anytime someone mentions anything above a megaphone and a cardboard sign there's always one of you that comes out of the woodwork and is like "MLK... Checkmate 😎". As another commenter said, MLK was not the civil rights movement of his time. The reason he is the poster child for that movement in that era is specifically because his personal convictions about non-violent protest are safe for the system as it is.
Slavery can still exist, albeit in a different form. (Not chattel slavery) Racism can still exist, albeit in different forms. People who are victims of these systems are dismissed out-of-pocket because that's the goal: the system never wanted to change, and by making MLK the summation of "the civil rights movement" in the eye of the public, they infused passivity into the discourse. They tell you to make your signs, and get your megaphones, and write your blog posts because that's what is safe for the system to continue on as it has always been.
I 100% agree with your position, but I just want to correct a long-standing whitewashing that still tricks folks on the left; his nonviolence theory was a political strategy, not a moral position
MLK, while crucially important, was only ever a small part of a much larger movement. A movement practically immersed in violence.
MLK's nonviolence was a strategy, not a moral position. I think you need to do more research on MLK.
Sorry I'm not an expert in MLK, but I know enough to see through the bullshit.
People who think you can solve all problems by stating that you are in the moral right, instead of fighting for what you believe in, really show their true colors of being woefully ignorant to how history has always worked. This end of history neoliberal narrative has truly rotted peoples brains and made them unable to intellectually understand how to stand up for themselves.
The whole point of a protest is to show that you have sufficient numbers that if you were to riot, it would get ugly.
So what are we supposed to do? Take up arms and start shooting?
There is no alternative to peaceful protest.
As a really great character once said: Get angry. Angry gets shit done.
Peaceful protests are pointless.
As the original post states, peaceful protests were originally a warning - they were the last opportunity for nonviolent communication before the violence started. Their function relies on that being the next step - one that the organization wants to avoid.