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Maybe an unpopular opinion here on lemmy, but I think this is a good thing.
Chevron is a good idea in theory, give experts in regulating a specific thing more leeway to manage that. Problem is if you give a bureaucratic agency an inch they become maniacal dictators. They start calling bees a kind of fish and a puddle in your backyard a lake, they randomly change up their own decisions making normal people criminals overnight or vice versa, and sometimes they even just try to make their own rules.
If you want a law then make a law, don't have an unelected bureaucrat issue an edict. If the legislative branch is a mess the solution is to fix the mess, not hand off their powers to the executive branch. Again, if used by level headed people it would have been great, but eventually after so many decisions that would sound too comical for a parody we can't have nice things anymore.
Do you have any non-hyperbolic examples of this kind of overreach?
iirc they DID classify bees as fish but only because it was the only way they could enact any kind of protections for them.
And it wasn't a "bureaucratic agency" either.
Legislators made a law classifying invertebrates as fish. And judges interpreted the law as written. This is the clownery that happens when people with zero expertise control the law.
This is exactly what that fool was advocating for....
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Looks more like a legislative skill issue than a judicial one to me. I don't know what is expected of the judges aside from interpreting the law.
I think that case was rightly decided on both a policy and law basis. But after the law was enacted, the agency had interpreted the law to have an understanding on how they should enforce it prior to the judicial interpretation.
So the agency did interpret the law as including bees as fish, correctly. Had the not done so the court case wouldn't have happened because no one would have been advocating for that interpretation.
It was a beuroctatic agency, theCalifornia Fish and Game Commission reinterpreted an existing law meant to protect fish instead of seeking a law that actually protected bees.
Since they won't answer, let me answer for them...
No. They have no examples or citations for any of their nonsense.
Lol, actually I will answer, and yes it will be with citations
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Migratory_bird_rule
https://nbcmontana.com/news/offbeat/california-court-rules-that-bees-are-actually-fish-california-endangered-species-act-cesa-crotch-western-suckley-cuckoo-franklin-species-endangered-invertebrates
I think their alluding to a California Bee interpretation another commenter mentioned and perhaps Sackett v EPA for the one after that. For the switching one I read that probably referring to multiple cases but the BATFE pistol brace interpretation has gone through multiple instances, several implicating hundreds of thousands into felons. For the making up rules I'd guess they were talking about the recent court decision where the agency decided they could hold fishers accountable for compliance officer's salaries despite the law not state that they could do that.
The hyperbole is the point. They're explaining that such a thing is theoretically possible.
It's not hyperbolic
https://nbcmontana.com/news/offbeat/california-court-rules-that-bees-are-actually-fish-california-endangered-species-act-cesa-crotch-western-suckley-cuckoo-franklin-species-endangered-invertebrates
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Migratory_bird_rule
Lol, those were not hyperbole, although I get where their absurdity might make you assume they were.
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Migratory_bird_rule
https://nbcmontana.com/news/offbeat/california-court-rules-that-bees-are-actually-fish-california-endangered-species-act-cesa-crotch-western-suckley-cuckoo-franklin-species-endangered-invertebrates