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[–] 420blazeit69@hexbear.net 3 points 4 months ago (1 children)

This is just defeatist.

Fifteen years ago there was no significant organization left of the Democratic Party. The growth in leftist numbers and organization since then has been enormous. Why are we suddenly at the point where there can be no further movement?

[–] FunkyStuff@hexbear.net 6 points 4 months ago (1 children)

It can only work at the local level. At the national level it's always been a waste of energy to do entryism, the party is too good at propping up corporate dems to primary effective leftists with AIPAC money. The ones who remain become Pelosis, such as AOC. It's a strategy with a bad track record, it seems like the easiest path toward power but it's not a coherent solution; activists work outside of the Demoocratic party then people like AOC suck the energy out of any movement and take credit. We can still use the Democratic Party as a springboard since most of the people who are already sympathetic to us are currently Democrats, flip the script on them, but to try to build the left inside the Democratic Party is just asking to be undermined by opportunists.

[–] 420blazeit69@hexbear.net 7 points 4 months ago (1 children)

...I think we're talking about different things. I said we can bring people to the left of the Democratic Party. I think you read that as bringing the left in to the Democratic Party.

I wasn't suggesting entryism, I was suggesting we can get people to realize the Democratic Party is never going to provide any real improvements.

[–] FunkyStuff@hexbear.net 6 points 4 months ago (1 children)

Ah, fair enough. So we agree then.