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So.many people have conspiracy theories about how chat gpt is stealing things and whatever, people in this threat crowing that it's immoral if they teach it with paywalled journal articles - though I bet I can guess who their favorite reddit founder is...
I use gpt to help coding my open source project and it's fantastic, everyone else I know that contributes to floss is doing the same - it's not magic but for a lot of tasks it can cut 90% of the time out especially prototyping and testing. I've been able to add more and better functionality thaks to a free service, I think that's a great thing.
What I'm really looking forward to is CAD getting generative tools, refining designs into their most efficient forms and calculating strengths would be fantastic for the ecosystem of freely shared designs, text2printable would be fantastic 'design a bit to fix this problem' could shift a huge amount of production back to local small industry or bring it into the home.
The positive possibilities of people having access to these technologies is huge, all the groups that currently can't compete with the big corporations suddenly have a huge wall pulled down for them - being able to make custom software tools for niche tasks is fantastic for small charities or community groups, small industry, eco projects, etc.
It'll take time for people to learn how to use the tools effectively just like when computers were new but as it becomes more widely understood I think we'll see a lot of positive innovation which it enables.
I am not denying the positive use cases being employed now and possibly being employed in the future. I am not opposing the use/development of AI tools now and in in future too.
However the huge negative possibilities are very real too and is/will be effecting humanity. I am against the course big AI companies seem to be taking and against the possible future allocation of most of major tech innovations to their cause.
It is of course very hard to predict how the positives and negatives will balance out but I think big tech companies don't have any interest in balancing this out. They seem to be very short sighted for anything other than direct profits. I think they will take the easiest way to more profit/AI dominance which is a short term investment. So I am not very optimistic on how it will pan out. Maybe I am wrong and like computers it will open up a whole new world of possibilities. But the landscape then and landscape now is also quite different in terms of how big tech companies and richest people act.
Your position is: "I like AI because it makes my job/hobbies easier. Also my coworkers do the same, because they are in almost the same position as me. I understand why people don't like AI, they must just be reading fake-news about it and believing it. Why can't they see that AI is a benefit for society?"
Not once did you mention any of the reasons people are opposed to AI, just that you hope one day they will get over it and learn how to use the tools to bring down big business.
I like how you imply that only programmers at large corporations know how to build things. If they would just use the AI tools I bet you could hire in a bunch more developers for cheap to boost productivity!
Here's a clue: no one gives a shit about making it slightly easier to code, make pictures, or write emails. The costs for maintaining the system and developing it are absurd when we have actual problems affecting people right now. This is all a waste of time, and is Americas latest scam. Before that was crypto currency, medical investment fraud, and a hundred other get rich quick/save the world schemes designed to do one thing: generate profit for a small group of people so they can ride off into the sunset, their American dream complete.
You're absolutely delusional if you think no one wants code done quicker and easier, and that's not to .mention the endless other things it makes possible like giving people access to vital services like heathcare in their native language, etc, etc.
These are things that are going to totally change the world for the better, removing power from corporations and giving to to people. You may not understand that because you're not involved in actually doing anything productive but it's a reality everyone can see.
Yes things have been scams there are also things that have dramatically changed the world for the better, heathacare and education in remote and impoverished areas all entirely depends on the mobile networks. They're also now absurdly cheap, the cost and effort of sending text used to be prohibitive but now you can video chat with your whole family all day every day at no extra thanks to a technology which became ubiquitous.
As for your very wise solution of 'just hire more developers' yes that is why corporations are able to capture and control markets, a world where only the rich have the power to make things and compete is a horrible late capitalist hell - stop defending capitalism just because you're used to it, yes you have an affluent life thanks to the suffering of others which is great for you but I don't want to live like that, I don't want to require children to slave in cocoa and coffee plantations or starving mothers to work 16 hour days in fast fashion garment factories when we have the ability to free those people and give them good lives by harnessing ai to help automate boring and laborious tasks.
Capitalism is not as good as you seem to think it is, learn about the reality of capitalism beyond your glib bubble and you'll realize that ai tools are vital for a fair world and a world at peace.