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Name one successful communist nation! (media.mas.to)
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[–] Aatube@kbin.melroy.org -4 points 4 months ago (1 children)

Oops, yeah, I forgot about that. But you actually see livestreamed debate about whether suppressing these protests was good (oftentimes it's highly criticized), and you don't just get prosecuted if you just express opinions online. Also, the campus protests were suppressed because the owners of the private property being protested on didn't like it. They get substantial funding from the state, but there's still a difference from the state itself doing it. Like socialists and flat-earthers don't get straight-up stamped out by police, whereas Stalin actively prosecuted people who didn't support pseudobiology.

[–] Radical_EgoCom@mastodon.social 2 points 4 months ago (1 children)

@Aatube @yogthos @NoiseColor

I'm not at all trying to suggest that Stalinist Russia was more free than modern-day America, just that many people think of America as a free country when it's actually closer to Stalinist Russia than they'd care to recognize.

[–] Aatube@kbin.melroy.org 1 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago) (1 children)

My point is that the United States is indeed much less authoritarian. Saying that there's no such thing as a state that's more authoritarian or less authoritarian is denying reality.

[–] yogthos@lemmy.ml 2 points 4 months ago (1 children)

US incarceration rate is higher than what USSR had during Stalin's purges. It's hard to think of a better measure of how authoritarian a state is than the percentage of the population it keeps behind bars.