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[โ€“] gnuhaut@lemmy.ml 0 points 1 year ago (2 children)

I will believe that warm water freezes faster only if I see it with my own eyes. It just goes against everything I know about thermodynamics.

[โ€“] SkepticElliptic@beehaw.org 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

It requires very specific circumstances. Given the same ambient temperature hot water will cool at a faster rate than cooler water because of the greater temperature differential.

Hot water will lose more mass as more will evaporate as it cools.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mpemba_effect

It's one of those "wacky" physics facts.

[โ€“] gnuhaut@lemmy.ml 1 points 1 year ago

In 2016, Burridge and Linden defined the criterion as the time to reach 0 ยฐC (32 ยฐF; 273 K), carried out experiments, and reviewed published work to date. They noted that the large difference originally claimed had not been replicated, and that studies showing a small effect could be influenced by variations in the positioning of thermometers: "We conclude, somewhat sadly, that there is no evidence to support meaningful observations of the Mpemba effect."

I'm with those guys.

[โ€“] conrad82@lemmy.ml 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I heard hot water freeze faster when thrown in freezing cold air, because it evaporates faster - making smaller droplets and increasing the surface area

[โ€“] gnuhaut@lemmy.ml 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Right, I can believe that. I was thinking of making ice cubes, which is also something I heard.

[โ€“] cnschn@lemmy.cnschn.com 1 points 1 year ago

This is actually a thing, it's called the Mpemba effect. It's hella weird (that's the scientific term), but can be reproduced in experiments.