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Did Deng actually say "To be rich is glorious"? (lemmygrad.ml)

submitted 5 months ago by Skipper1402@lemmygrad.ml to c/china@lemmygrad.ml

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[–] deathtoreddit@lemmygrad.ml 19 points 5 months ago (1 children)

Western journalists in search of a shorthand for China's dramatic economic turnaround will almost invariably trot this one out. But, oddly enough, it doesn't show up much in Chinese publications, and nobody has managed to find the original source where Deng allegedly said it.

The phrase was popularized by the writer Orville Schell in his 1984 book "To Get Rich Is Glorious: China in the '80s." But Schell never actually attributed the words to Deng, telling the L.A. Times's Evelyn Iritani in 2004 that it merely "grew out of the zeitgeist" of China's economic reforms.

Nah, mate, it ain't so...

[–] REEEEvolution@lemmygrad.ml 9 points 5 months ago (1 children)

That said, it's almost impossible to verify or debunk any quotation attributed to a dead Chinese leader, as China's Communist Party is extraordinarily adept at revising history so that it meets the political needs of the present.

The irony of writing this on a self proclaimed christian website seems lost to the author.

[–] sinovictorchan@lemmygrad.ml 4 points 5 months ago

Should the correct word be correcting history away from the fake history that Pax Americana wrote? The Pax Americana always revise history like the story about the 1989 Tiananmen Square false flag terrorism, but I can always find original source from defectors and their inability to silence all people who read one of the many revisions from fake news. Furthermore, this is the first time that I read about accusation that Chinese communist government revise history.