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tweet in which jon points out the obvious and libs get mad

excerpt from a Libbrainworms:

Jon gives his best impression of a 14 year old tankie in this video.

The following is true simultaneously:

  1. It is appropriate to critique US foreign policy, it's actually necessary in a free society.
  2. Some bad actions are worse than others. Iraq wasn't annexed into the 51st state, as opposed to Crimea, Donetsk, Kherson, Luhansk and Zaporizhzhia.
  3. Not all foreign policy decisions are zero sum, it's possible for both parties to derive a benefit from an agreement (US and Philippines for example).

what a great deal

amerikkka i receive Military bases and access to your natural resources

you philippines-cool received: a US backed dictatorship

  1. The world does not revolve around the US, people in the Kremlin have agency.
  2. The Russian invasion of Ukraine and PRC threats of a Taiwan invasion are not about US foreign policy, they are a response to internal Russian and PRC pressures.
  3. Not every policy decision is based on trade and natural resources, those some of the variables in a long list of strategic considerations.
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[–] umbrella@lemmy.ml 12 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago) (2 children)

i didnt know this guy is based, he just seemed like a lib to me from the admittedly little i know about his takes.

[–] SacredExcrement@hexbear.net 43 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago) (3 children)

He IS a lib.

This is just how far gone they are, Jon was considered a garden variety lib that was maybe just a bit left of them 10 years ago, and his positions haven't shifted much if at all. It just shows how far the overton window has moved.

[–] eldavi@lemmy.ml 20 points 5 months ago

blue maga has don't a lot to fuck us over this election cycle and i pray (as an atheist) that they won't complete sink us.

if it were to base my feelings on the fediverse or reddit i would be screwed but watching that last 3 elections not play out as reddit expected gives me hope.

[–] TechnoUnionTypeBeat@hexbear.net 5 points 4 months ago

Twenty years ago it was commonly understood that one could not and should not believe anything in the mainstream news without investigation first, because we all watched as the news carried water for an illegal and immoral invasion of Afghanistan and Iraq

Those same people who would've scoffed at any word out of the Press Secretary's mouth now go into a frothing rage if you were to suggest that maybe, just maybe, the news doesn't always give an accurate framing. It's baffling to me, and the change happened subtly - maybe I wasn't paying attention, I was unfortunately one of those "it's over for Drumpf" style libs back in 2016, but I can't really point to a moment where the change happened, just that it did

[–] NewLeaf@hexbear.net 4 points 4 months ago

Compare the popularity of "the rally for sanity" to what we're seeing now

[–] SkingradGuard@hexbear.net 28 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago)

He's very very lib, a real true believer in liberal democracy and all that, but he occasionally stumbles on the right criticisms of the system.