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  • Microsoft inadvertently highlighted the benefits of using a local account over a Microsoft account on Windows 11 in a recent support page update.
  • Using a local account allows for offline sign-in, is independent of cloud services, and limits settings, files, and applications to a single device, enhancing privacy.
  • Despite these benefits, Microsoft requires internet access or workarounds for the initial setup of Windows 11, making it challenging to use a local account from the start.
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[–] dan1101@lemm.ee 206 points 5 months ago (5 children)

The online requirements are unnerving to me. I feel like Microsoft wants my personal files. I don't think it's to outright steal or scam, but there is something in everyone's data they want. Maybe AI training. Anyway I'm not giving it up willingly.

[–] hondaguy97386@sh.itjust.works 132 points 5 months ago (4 children)

This is part of why I preach Linux. I don't care what distro, just get away from Microsoft.

[–] wreckedcarzz@lemmy.world 77 points 5 months ago (4 children)

I don't care what distro

ChromeOS it is!

[–] Anti_Iridium@lemmy.world 66 points 5 months ago (1 children)
[–] SturgiesYrFase@lemmy.ml 40 points 5 months ago (1 children)
[–] Toes@ani.social 32 points 5 months ago

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[–] chaosCruiser@futurology.today 18 points 5 months ago (1 children)

Nah, too much freedom. Use Red Star OS to properly restrict your activities and let NK know what you’re doing.

Do they still do the gulag thing? I've been meaning to get in shape...

[–] hondaguy97386@sh.itjust.works 10 points 5 months ago (1 children)

That... that isn't really what I meant...

[–] JamesFire@lemmy.world 9 points 5 months ago
[–] someacnt_@lemmy.world 3 points 5 months ago

Well, I heard they are switching to Android..

[–] Aeri@lemmy.world 13 points 5 months ago (2 children)

If I could use Linux and still play multiplayer video games with anti cheat I would be so happy...

[–] skizzles@lemmy.ml 15 points 5 months ago (2 children)

Dual boot, and use something like AtlasOS to clean up the BS that comes with windows.

I have a separate drive with windows for solidworks and a few online games I play occasionally. 99% of the time I run Linux though.

That being said I understand if you game online a lot and those games don't work in Linux then that really isn't an option.

At the very least though I would check out something like AtlasOS, it works for both W10 and 11.

[–] firepenny@lemmy.world 4 points 5 months ago (1 children)

Please don’t use atlasOS. These “custom” versions of Windows are fully of security implications.

[–] skizzles@lemmy.ml 8 points 5 months ago (2 children)

It's not a custom version of windows.

Please make sure you do some research before you implicate things.

AtlasOS modifies a fresh install of windows to help get rid of bloat ware and some of the security concerns that MS puts in their OS.

[–] stoy@lemmy.zip 1 points 5 months ago

That is arguing sementics, in either way you let a third party modify your OS.

Use something like Chris Titus' script instead of a black box script, he explains what it does in his videos, so there's not much trust needed.

[–] hondaguy97386@sh.itjust.works 7 points 5 months ago (1 children)

That is a dev/publisher issue. A lot of games work now. EAC is just a flip of a switch basically.

[–] Aeri@lemmy.world 7 points 5 months ago (1 children)

Yeah well it's a Dev/Publisher issue with the games I play regularly, so.

[–] hondaguy97386@sh.itjust.works 4 points 5 months ago

That's a bummer.

[–] mesamunefire@lemmy.world 8 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago)

Yep its easier than ever to get into it and even works with games via steam now. My computer runs soo much faster than with windows.

[–] slurpinderpin@lemmy.world 5 points 5 months ago (3 children)

There are still lots of reasons why many of us use Windows. Like work machines for example

[–] themeatbridge@lemmy.world 32 points 5 months ago (4 children)

Sure, but if you have the option, you shouldn't choose it. One reason so many businesses use Windows is that everyone knows Windows. If everyone learns Linux, more companies will use Linux.

[–] JAWNEHBOY@reddthat.com 7 points 5 months ago

This is what it comes down to. Nearly every office job pays for the Microsoft enterprise suite and office 365 subscriptions, before tacking on third party tools for monitoring and info. sec. for IT. I would gladly ditch Office 365 for Open Office and Debian, assuming all the higher ups would be willing to take such drastic measures to reduce expenses. I think most employees would balk at learning "an entire new system" regardless of how minor the differences actually are at this point.

I'll give 'em this: Microsoft's model creates very sticky revenue with high switching costs.

[–] slurpinderpin@lemmy.world 4 points 5 months ago

Yeah no argument there from me, just wanted to point out that it's not always a choice

[–] ringwraithfish@startrek.website 4 points 5 months ago (1 children)

Another reason is that you are virtually guaranteed to find any application you need that supports Windows.

[–] themeatbridge@lemmy.world 5 points 5 months ago (1 children)

True, but more applications are supporting Linux as it becomes more popular. More users means more Linux apps means more users.

[–] ringwraithfish@startrek.website 4 points 5 months ago

Yep! With Steam Deck pushing more native game support, I hope we see more users get used to the Linux environment and increase the demand on the PC side for better support across all applications.

[–] tabular@lemmy.world 8 points 5 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago) (1 children)
[–] slurpinderpin@lemmy.world 3 points 5 months ago (1 children)
[–] SturgiesYrFase@lemmy.ml 2 points 5 months ago

I mean...if you get written up for circumventing IT blocks and installing Linux on your work device, but that write up is signed with a barage of bullets....maybe you're working for the wrong dictatorship?

[–] hondaguy97386@sh.itjust.works 4 points 5 months ago

Oh I know that. However I don't own the work rig, won't do anything but work on it.

[–] homesweethomeMrL@lemmy.world 18 points 5 months ago (1 children)

I don't think it's to outright steal or scam

It is. They’re a monopoly. It’s illegal and unethical. And, just poor design.

[–] j4k3@lemmy.world 14 points 5 months ago

It is way more. It is a means of manipulation and influence over your decisions, and the decisions others make about you. The issue boils down to a fundamental principal of your right to autonomy. If you play out this philosophically, it is an attack on your citizenship and democracy itself. Autonomy is a fundamental cornerstone of democracy. Attacks on autonomy are attacks on democracy.

[–] ch00f@lemmy.world 13 points 5 months ago (1 children)

Does anybody remember back in 2005 when Google had a plugin for windows xp that would index your entire hard drive and give you quick search for your files?

How things have changed.

[–] jasep@lemmy.world 16 points 5 months ago

We use Everything for that now

[–] olympicyes@lemmy.world 7 points 5 months ago

My buddy’s account got compromised because his kid fell for some kind of Minecraft scam. It was his 365 account that he pays for and Microsoft has told him to pound sand. He’s grateful that he doesn’t use one drive and uses a local login on windows. He’s not even the only person that I know that had this happen to them.

[–] thisisbutaname@discuss.tchncs.de 3 points 5 months ago

They're in on collecting data, like every other company