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Please keep things relaxed. We're all hobbits here. If you are a Sackville Baggins, No Admittance Except on Party Business.

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One of the great things about The Lord of the Rings is that the actual Lord of the Ring has, like, two lines in the entire series. He's talked about quite a lot, but he literally only speaks that one time when Pippin grabs the Palantir.

He's even mentioned in The Hobbit as the necromancer. And for anyone who thinks that's a retcon, there are earlier sources where we find that the name of the necromancer was always Sauron, even prior to the LOTR being written.

[SPOILER ALERT FOR Rings of Power]

To anyone who has watched Rings of Power and read The Silmarillion, how accurate was that portrayal? He is actually portrayed as a rather nice guy, although as I write this I recall something about how Sauron was very charasmatic before some event that ruined his ability to transform and appear nice. Cannot recall what that was. Maybe the downfall of Morgoth or something?

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I just barely remember listening to this record as a young child on one of those children's briefcase style record players. I still have my original one, although at some point I actually bought another off eBay because the original one has a scratch.

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I'm betting there are a lot of Bombadil #1 fans out there and I can see why. He's just living a happy free relaxed life unbeholden to anyone.

However, I think Bilbo is very similar in many ways and he's also an excellent writer.

Also, Bilbo isn't as silly as Bombadil, but he's not as serious as Frodo. He's the proper temperature porridge for me.

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In my Lord of the Rings journey video I plotted Boromir's journey as best I could. However, there are a lot of constraints on his journey and it's kind of a puzzle to find the exact path.

We know all of the following things:

  • When the journey started and ended.
  • He got a horse at Edoras, likely spent some time there, and then lost his horse at Tharbad. Not sure if he definitely had a horse from Minas Tirith, but I assume he did.
  • He hadn't seen Hobbits before when he met Frodo, so he may or may not have gone to Bree on his journey, depending on how many Hobbits hang out there. I assumed he didn't make it to Bree.
  • He didn't start out knowing where Rivendell was. He wandered somewhere, but there are actually not that many places he could have wandered to while still keeping to his known schedule.

Any other details we know that tell us precisely where his journey took him?