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[–] h3ndrik@feddit.de 57 points 8 months ago (1 children)

10 points for the clickbaity title.

[–] PonyOfWar@pawb.social 22 points 8 months ago (1 children)

I hope they can get their bank account restored. Certainly seems like a questionable move by the bank, though it's entirely possible we're missing more context.

But also, that headline is polemic bullshit that could just as easily come from a tabloid like The Sun.

[–] Chup@feddit.de 11 points 8 months ago

Certainly seems like a questionable move by the bank, though it’s entirely possible we’re missing more context.

There was an article yesterday explaining that the frozen account belongs to an organisation that funds other organisations. One of those is accused of supporting/funding terrorism. So at the end, the bank has no choice and nothing to decide on their own, once they get knowledge of this accused connection. Otherwise they would to get dragged into the case as well and prosecution against them could be opened. Which is why they froze the bank account for now and sent a questionnaire about the organisation and their members to evaluate the situation. That is all, nothing was seized, the title is a lie.

[–] KISSmyOS@feddit.de 14 points 8 months ago (1 children)

novaramedia

"Today should be a day of celebration for supporters of democracy and human rights worldwide, as Gazans break out of their open-air prison and Hamas fighters cross into their colonisers' territory. The struggle for freedom is rarely bloodless and we shouldn't apologise for it."

– Rivkah Brown, commissioning editor at Novara Media, on the morning of the 2023 Hamas-led attack on Israel

[–] rottingleaf@lemmy.zip -1 points 8 months ago

So? She's right.

[–] 0x815@feddit.de 5 points 8 months ago

The [pro-Palestine Jewish activist] group suspects the move was triggered by its involvement in a forthcoming pro-Palestine conference that has attracted intense scorn from the German mainstream.

Even the group itself claims the account freeze (which is, btw, not the same as 'seizing money') was due to its pro-Palestine stance (and not bc the group is Jewish).

Bank accounts shouldn't be frozen bc and organisation is Jewish nor bc its pro-Palestine, but what the title suggests is obviously completely different from the article's content.

I'd also agree with what is already said in this thread. There's a lot wrong with the way how this story is framed.

[–] roastedDeflator@kbin.social 2 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago) (1 children)

Intersectionality is a great analytical tool. Jewish Voice for Peace found themselves to be in the intersection of being both Jewish and anti-zionists. German government policies and often German people (even from the left or antifa), fail take this intersection into consideration.

But do we really need this analytical tool for this topic? When a person knows the historical relation between zionism and fascism, why would they support zionists or zionist policies?

[–] Mrkawfee 1 points 8 months ago

Great article, thanks.

[–] sqgl@beehaw.org -4 points 8 months ago (1 children)

From a comment in a duplicate post

yeah, lol, they're not Jewish, they aren't a voice for Jews, and their end goal is the destruction of the Jewish state by any means necessary, they support every terrorist organization to have ever threatened and attacked actual Jews in Israel, and they are as far from a peace organization as you can possibly get. their very name is Jew baiting. they are demons.

[–] tryptaminev@feddit.de 2 points 8 months ago (1 children)

Thats bullshit. It is particularly heinous that in Germany Germans think they get to decide who is a "real jew" and who isnt. Denying jewish ethnic or cultural heritage based on political positions is antisemtic bullshit.

[–] rottingleaf@lemmy.zip 2 points 8 months ago

Yeah, that's like current finding the shortest path. Most have been cut, but.

In general dramatic moralizing behavior and deciding who's a real Jew seems to be a phenomenon too often exhibited by Germans.

Like "our ancestors have committed terrible crimes, but we've repented and now we are somehow better for it than if those crimes wouldn't happen". People tend to try and justify that their group is exceptional from every big historical event uniting it. So I'd prefer that Germans just wouldn't touch the Holocaust card, they don't understand the limitations and thus cross them too often.