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VPNs still work well in China, for those who were wondering. (sh.itjust.works)

submitted 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago) by Varyk@sh.itjust.works to c/china@sopuli.xyz

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PSA

There was a comment a couple months ago now I think about people concerned that VPNs no longer worked in China.

I traveled in China for several weeks over the lunar new year last month and tested proton, Nord, astrill, and a few random small ones I found off the chinese-accessible internet via Baidu without a vpn, and all of them work fine with the exception of one rabbit one that stated it refused to work in China.

But if anyone had any lingering concerns about the viability of using a VPN in China, they all worked fine, and the three big ones I mentioned worked fine all day every day, the smaller ones disconnected after an hour or so and then you would have to reconnect.

But they all worked, even over the holidays when the government is supposed to crack down on VPNs.

Right now there's a party committee going on for a few days so vpns are supposed to be shut off, but my friend is using a VPN in China and sent me messages from Gmail, which is inaccessible in China without a VPN, to let me know that they're still working.

Corollary PSA, my tickets from NY to Hong Kong were 274 bucks last month one-way, so prices are pretty crazy low right now, or at least they were several weeks ago.

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[–] Psythik@lemmy.world 5 points 8 months ago (1 children)

I have no intentions on ever visiting that place, but thanks.

[–] Varyk@sh.itjust.works -1 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago) (1 children)

You will be missing out

[–] Psythik@lemmy.world 0 points 8 months ago (1 children)

Miss out on visiting a shithole country that treats their citizens like animals? Yeah I'm good.

Danm shame too cause it's a really beautiful country. But I rather not visit a place controlled by a government that censors the internet, will throw you in a prison camp if you point out that Xi Jinping looks like Winnie The Pooh (which he absolutely does), and tries to pretend that the tiananmen square massacre never happened.

Also you can't legally mention any of these words or phrases if you live there:

动态网自由门天安門天安门法輪功李洪志 Free Tibet 六四天安門事件 The Tiananmen Square protests of 1989 天安門大屠殺反右派鬥爭 The Anti-Rightist Struggle 大躍進政策 The Great Leap Forward 文化大革命 The Great Proletarian Cultural Revolution 人權 Human Rights 民運 Democratization 自由 Freedom 獨立 Independence 多黨制 Multi-party system 台灣臺灣 Taiwan Formosa 中華民國 Republic of China 西藏土伯特唐古特 Tibet 達賴喇嘛 Dalai Lama 法輪功 Falun Dafa 新疆維吾爾自治區 The Xinjiang Uyghur Autonomous Region 諾貝爾和平獎 Nobel Peace Prize 劉暁波 Liu Xiaobo 民主言論思想反共反革命抗議運動騷亂暴亂騷擾擾亂抗暴平反維權示威游行李洪志法輪大法大法弟子強制斷種強制堕胎民族淨化人體實驗肅清胡耀邦趙紫陽魏京生王丹還政於民和平演變激流中國北京之春大紀元時報九評論共産黨獨裁專制壓制統一監視鎮壓迫害侵略掠奪破壞拷問屠殺活摘器官誘拐買賣人口遊進走私毒品賣淫春畫賭博六合彩天安門天安门法輪功李洪志 Winnie the Pooh 劉曉波动态网自由门

[–] Varyk@sh.itjust.works -1 points 8 months ago

"it's a really beautiful country" - yes, you'll miss out on that part.

20 percent of humans live there. So your experience and understanding of humanity will always be missing a significant portion of comprehension.

Which country do you live in that doesn't have a history of unconstitutionally jailing its citizens?

Let's talk about the history of genocide in that country, the internet censorship and its prison camps.

I don't know where you pulled that list, but it's amazing you could be wrong on so many terms when it's so easy to use a search engine.

Honestly admit why you aren't expanding your worldview of humanity rather than couching your limited understanding in shallow, hypocritical prejudice.

[–] jeena@jemmy.jeena.net 3 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago) (1 children)

But it's still ilegal to use them for normal chinese people as far as I know, and it can be selectively enforced if convinient for the ones in power.

[–] Varyk@sh.itjust.works 3 points 8 months ago

Yes, that's correct afaik.

I will throw in the caveat that I know Chinese people who have used them for 15 years without any problem.

I think it's only likely to be enforced in a political enemy kind of way

[–] stig@lemmy.world 2 points 4 months ago (1 children)

thanks for this. My friend is looking for best VPN to purchase as is moving to China at the end of the month.

[–] Varyk@sh.itjust.works 1 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago)

Oh cool. Specifically, Astrill and proton worked fine as of April, although it would be smart to get the programs on at least one device or have the apks on file before they head over there because it's difficult to download them from within the Chinese net.

If necessary, there's a VPN they can search for on Baidu within china called green VPN; that one will at least sporadically work and allow your friend to download their choice of more robust options.