Ah yes, famously apolitical Star Trek : risa

[–] till@nerdica.net 5 points 1 year ago

Yes, when - let's ask @georgetakei

[–] fiasco@possumpat.io 5 points 1 year ago

It's a shame they didn't go for that goofy andorian costume.

[–] JelloBrains@kbin.social 3 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

I hate this reaction to removal they want, I'm a big fan of the placement card at the start of these things that say "What you are about to see is wrong and shouldn't have been done," but not that removal of the content. I think it's way more powerful to put that content warning placard before a show from the '90s as proof there are still things that need to be done and it's not a "distant" past thing.

Edit, I guess '80s for this episode.

[–] can@sh.itjust.works 3 points 1 year ago (1 children)

What's been removed?

[–] JelloBrains@kbin.social 1 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Frakes recently renewed his call for the episode "Code of Honor" from season 1 to be completely removed from reruns, home video, and steaming platforms. He made the call in the past. So while they might not ever remove it, some people would like it to be removed.

"But I was told or I was under the impression that it had rubbed so many people the wrong way that it was pulled. I think they should take it out of the rotation. I think it is a great time to make that kind of -- as small as it is -- to make that kind of a statement would be fabulous."

Also, I just realized I posted this on the completely wrong article that I thought I was, I thought I was posting to a different topic about Frakes' request to remove the episode after finding out it was on Paramount's streaming service.

[–] can@sh.itjust.works 1 points 1 year ago

Ah, thanks for the info. I'm here from all and have never watched any trek but I have been considering giving TOS a try out of curiosity.

[–] shoggoth@startrek.website 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

which episode was that? pulling it is a dumb decision. just put the damn thing in context. i'm not going to pretend I didn't do something stupid decades ago just to try to look good now. people (and franchises) grow and change.

[–] TheGrandNagus@lemmy.world 1 points 10 months ago

Code of Honour

A.k.a "Dark men from Space Africa steal our white women"

In fairness, apparently when the episode was first pitched, they wanted the alien race to be reptiles, but it was subsequently changed to just be black people wearing tribal African clothing.

[–] joneskind@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago

Star Trek before the movies were the absolute best timeline.

[+] TheLurker@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago* (last edited 11 months ago)

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[–] Lemmylemmylemmy@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago

Thats not even the craziest part of that episode

[+] half@lemmy.world -6 points 1 year ago (10 children)

I'm not defending the straw man in this screenshot of a tweet, but this is a bad comparison. Roddenberry created a world in which the ideas of equality, freedom, diplomacy, and justice could be explored organically. He shifted the underlying economic motivations for the existence of political systems. He fought constantly with the studio system and his own writers to bring about a revolutionary vision of the future.

Since Roddenberry's death, Star Trek: The Franchise has been slowly oscillating downwards: away from a universe whose observation reveals the objective value of virtue into one in which virtue is paid lip service at the cost of strong "physics" -- that is, the sense of a coherent universe. Star Trek is now a product researched, marketed, designed, produced, tested, distributed, and defended by committee. Where once we had revolutionary subversions of what was allowed on television, we now find performative affirmations of popular lifestyle. If you have to compare yourself to 90's broadcast television in order to feel revolutionary, you're not.

The use of "woke" and "political" in this hypercontextualist style is so vague as to border on non-expression. Reacting to a reaction to a reaction to a reaction to a form of expression in which my reply wouldn't be allowed due to a character limit is not critical thinking. We can do better than this. Roddenberry already did.

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[+] JasSmith@kbin.social -20 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (5 children)

TNG, DS9, and Voyager had great writers. They deftly wove in contentious issues designed to invoke introspection and consideration of one's own positions, prejudices, and biases. They appealed to people of all political persuasions because they didn't cast judgement. "Oh that's what you believe? Well here's a whole planet built on those hypothetical principles. Here are some cool things, and some terrible things. Make up your own mind."

Star Trek writers today have all the tact and nuance of an angry baboon flinging faeces at the viewer while screaming "REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE!!!!!" Without exploration of the plentiful and beautiful nuance in life, what's left is a sermon. A preachy, dire, boring sermon. And who better to lead the ceremony each week than the Maryest of Sues, Michael Burnham.

Comparing TNG with whatever the fuck we have today is an insult to Star Trek, and Trekkie Bill knows it.

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