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[–] Moonrise2473@feddit.it 125 points 10 months ago (7 children)

those tables usually are wrong or misleading, i don't like them.

Edge for example has the 3rd party cookie blocking and it works ok, so why it's "no" and not "somewhat" or similar?

[–] Downcount@lemmy.world 53 points 10 months ago (1 children)

I dont see the line "3rd party cookie blocking"

[–] Moonrise2473@feddit.it 28 points 10 months ago (3 children)

should be "prevent sites from tracking". Or they carefully chose that sentence in order to give a "no" to edge and "somewhat" to chrome and opera

[–] lemann@lemmy.dbzer0.com 22 points 10 months ago

Firefox uses a built-in domain blocklist for tracking protection, in addition to blocking third party cookies

Although that would not explain why Chrome and Opera pass that at all to begin with IMO. Maybe these browsers enforce their own additional data silos or other deviations from specs when in Private Browsing mode. I know Chrome for example shrinks the storage provision for various JS APIs down to practically nothing when in Incognito mode, which can break things like Teams Web etc when you start sharing files.

Either way though all marketing ever is, is just a selection of carefully chosen words. In this case, browsers too, as there's no Brave there (I'm not a fan of Brave anyway, but worth noting)

[–] Rodeo@lemmy.ca 5 points 10 months ago

Precisely why these "feature comparisons" are bogus.

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[–] Cheradenine@sh.itjust.works 16 points 10 months ago

The 'Enforce users choice' is just GPC on by default I believe. Which means nothing since it is still voluntary.

[–] ColeSloth@discuss.tchncs.de 8 points 10 months ago

By that logic Linux supports windows because I can run it using wine.

[–] Zagorath@aussie.zone 5 points 10 months ago

Yeah I’m confused about what tracking Chrome blocks that Chredge does not.

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[–] Infiltrated_ad8271@kbin.social 68 points 10 months ago (10 children)

I think this is a shitpost of the highest order. If this appears to everyone (?) it adds nothing, and the crappy table is just astonishingly blatant cherry-picking.

That's how all these tables are. If a vendor presents a table comparing themselves to competitors, it's going to be cherry picked.

[–] 1984@lemmy.today 15 points 10 months ago

I think it's a work of love. :)

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[–] Walop@sopuli.xyz 63 points 10 months ago (1 children)

I like using Firefox, but it's a bit ironic to have google analytics tracking on the page you declare to protect the users privacy.

[–] joyjoy@lemm.ee 22 points 10 months ago (1 children)

They never claimed firefox.com was privacy focused. Only your browser.

[–] EvolvedTurtle@lemmy.world 8 points 10 months ago

Just doesn't sit well But at least it's open source

[–] elgordio@kbin.social 61 points 10 months ago (2 children)

Safari needs a tick in β€œcopy urls without site tracking” since ios17 and macOS Sonoma

https://www.macrumors.com/how-to/remove-tracking-information-urls-safari/

[–] Kuro@lemm.ee 13 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago) (1 children)

Copy without tracking has been hit or miss for me on Firefox

[–] LinkOpensChest_wav@lemmy.dbzer0.com 14 points 10 months ago (2 children)

I just gave up and went back to using ClearURLs add-on. Nothing else seems to work as reliably, not even adding rules to uBO.

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[–] 1984@lemmy.today 29 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago) (7 children)

I didn't get that but I guess because I have a plugin to give me nice backgrounds on new tabs.

But yeah, shots fired. Nice!

The only issue is that only already existing Firefox users see this, and we already know this.

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[–] sarmale@lemmy.zip 22 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago) (1 children)

Every brother has one of these on their site, and somehow that browser always wins

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[–] Jarix@lemmy.world 21 points 10 months ago

Im just over here using firefox since it was still netscape navigator 2.0.

Another update? Okay

[–] DannyMac@lemmy.world 16 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago) (4 children)

They need to add a row for ~~"Owned by a foreign superpower"~~"Owned by the Chinese government" and a check for Opera.

[–] svgeesus@mastodon.social 55 points 10 months ago (2 children)

@DannyMac @Napain They are all owned by foreign powers.
Oh, your definition of "foreign" is non-US?

[–] RGB3x3@lemmy.world 16 points 10 months ago

Everyone knows the world is divided into:

  • United States
  • Everyone Else
[–] acockworkorange@mander.xyz 6 points 10 months ago

How is Mozilla owned by the US government?

[–] grue@lemmy.world 13 points 10 months ago (1 children)

On one hand, yeah. On the other hand, that could be a point in its favor, depending on your threat model. After all, if you're American, China can't prosecute you for secrets it learns from Opera the way the FBI could prosecute you for secrets it learns from Google.

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[–] Aria@lemmygrad.ml 6 points 10 months ago

Literally every single entry is owned by a foreign superpower.

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[–] PoliticalCustard@lemmygrad.ml 11 points 10 months ago (15 children)

Of these type of browser privacy comparisons the best I have found so far is https://privacytests.org/

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[–] Aria@lemmygrad.ml 6 points 10 months ago (6 children)

Feel free to test your fingerprinting resistance on a stock Firefox-install. https://www.amiunique.org/

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[–] Vrtrx@lemmy.world 6 points 10 months ago (2 children)

Honestly I don't see the reason they put that there. I already own Firefox why are you trying to win me over?

[–] sab@kbin.social 29 points 10 months ago (4 children)

People tend to have multiple browsers. You might have FireFox installed but still not be aware why you should use it over other browsers on your computer.

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[–] tcrash@lemmy.world 8 points 10 months ago

For the newbies

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