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[–] BR4@lemmy.world 7 points 10 months ago

I believe it's mainly main character syndrome. Like when we play a game like GTA, you care more about your own stats, progress and wealth, and maybe that of other players, but couldn't care less about most of the NPCs, and that gameplay dynamic seems attractive to most people.

Another way to look at it is the higher up on the perch you are, the more everyone else looks like ants. You probably won't intentionally leave some sugar for the ants, but if they get a few you don't mind.

As for the richest of the richest of the rich, they need to stay influential for various evil reasons.

[–] Aux@lemmy.world 7 points 10 months ago (2 children)
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[–] sverit@feddit.de 7 points 10 months ago

It's a pissing contest. Who has the biggest number on their account.

[–] _sideffect@lemmy.world 6 points 10 months ago

For power, that's all they want

[–] anarchy79@lemmy.world 6 points 10 months ago

"Sometime around the 80's. Next question."

[–] corsicanguppy@lemmy.ca 6 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Why hoard money?

When the fountain of youth is discovered, it's gonna be expensive.

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[–] ristoril_zip@lemmy.zip 5 points 10 months ago (1 children)
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[–] Grobmobularb@lemmy.world 4 points 10 months ago

I mean, all people need money but there is obviously a point where you really do have enough to live comfortably the rest of your life…

[–] wowwoweowza@lemmy.ml 4 points 10 months ago

How many yachts can you ski behind?

[–] BonesOfTheMoon@lemmy.world 3 points 10 months ago

If I was a multimillionaire I'd give so much of it away. I'd LOVE to singlehandedly fund our local cafe that feeds unhoused people every day, as well as house people all over the city. Nothing would make me happier than to actually do something meaningful. I'd be embarrassed to be greedy and buy Lamborghinis and shit. Give me a nice condo and a cute Mazda and a trip a year, maybe some clothes shopping, and that's all I need to make me happy. The rest can go to improving the lives of those in need.

[–] MystikIncarnate@lemmy.ca 3 points 10 months ago (2 children)

Bluntly, they need the money to make more money.

Most people of any significant wealth have a majority of their money/assets tied up in investments and other things. They're worth that much basically on paper only. Their actual liquid monetary assets are generally very small in comparison to their "worth".

They're generally taking a relatively small cut off the top for their personal spending, and reinvesting whatever else they have "earned". Once you get past a certain point with wealth, as long as you're not stupid about it and ether invest it yourself or hire a firm to do it for you, more wealth is a normal outcome of having wealth.

There are calculations, as you may expect, to perform payouts "in perpetuity" (aka "forever") which can account for growth/inflation. Personally, if I suddenly became ultra rich, I would find a good balance between how I live now and how I want to live, estimate what I would need to earn to acquire that lifestyle, then do the calculations to find out exactly how much I need to hold onto to achieve that, then either donate or otherwise give away the rest. I'd keep a healthy buffer on how much I'm keeping, and likely use some of it to update/upgrade key items in my life, not lavishly, but something better than I currently have (renovations to my home, upgrade for my vehicle, computers, electronics, etc)... Once my needs, both immediate and in the future) are satisfied and I have that extra "buffer" taken care of, the rest is useless to me.

I'd likely start with large donations to causes I believe in, and gift large sums to friends with coaching on how to make that money work for them as I did for me. My friends and I could become financially independent with a large enough financial "win".

I don't need more than what I require to maintain a fairly modest lifestyle. I don't like, want, or desire any "glamour" or "fame". I mainly want to be left alone. Paying off my house and having a good amount of passive income from investments is sufficient for me (where passive income grows with inflation year over year). Beyond that, I have no use for wealth. I only want enough that I can make that money "work" for me on the way that I'm no longer required to work. If my investments and buffer result in significantly more than I need being generated, I would give that extra away.

But I'm more communally focused than anything. Helping my friends and neighbors is more important to me than the idea of "more for me".

To circle back to the point, wealth is the ultimate indicator of success in capitalism. People with excessive wealth are seen as some of the most important and influential people in a capitalist society. So to their mind, they're important because of the money that they have. The mere suggestion of giving most of it away tends to be taken as handouts to those who haven't earned it. Artificially inflating that person's statue in society while diminishing their own. They're at the top of the ladder of success in their mind, giving away their fortune puts them lower on the social ladder of success and therefore it's unacceptable. The wealth they have is the representation of their importance, and by diminishing it, even a little bit, they're "moving down" on the ladder of success, which is something that they never want to do.

I don't agree with that, but I understand it. I'd personally gladly sacrifice my own excesses to bring people up. I only want for enough to secure my ability to provide for me and my family. Anything beyond that isn't useful to me. I have no illusions of grandeur that because I have money I'm somehow better than anyone. I hold the opposite view, where earnings well above what is required to secure yourself financially, are unnecessary, and shouldn't be kept. We're all supposed to be equals in a democracy, but people who are aggressively capitalist see it differently.

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