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submitted 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago) by moss@lemmy.blahaj.zone to c/196@lemmy.blahaj.zone
 
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[–] sin_free_for_00_days@sopuli.xyz 14 points 9 months ago (1 children)

Someone explain this rule to me please? I don't know how she is, and Democratic Socialism most definitely isn't anticapitalist.

[–] moss@lemmy.blahaj.zone 24 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago) (2 children)

Hi there it's me Moss here to explain the joke. this is an image of me. it is my profile picture on every platform. I was meaning to coincide this post with updating my profile picture, but the blahaj image servers are currently down so I was unable to update my profile picture.

Democratic means that I believe elections should be Democratic. it does not mean that I am part of the American Democratic party.

socialist means that I am a socialist.

anti-capitalist means that I am critical of, and mostly against the concept of capitalist government and social economic structures.

I see no reason why someone who is truly a Democratic socialist cannot be opposed to capital

[–] boo_@lemmy.blahaj.zone 21 points 9 months ago (1 children)

I think they got democratic socialism confused with social democracy (which is understandable given the similar names). The difference is that democratic socialism is... well, socialism and that social democracy is just liberalism with a social safety net.

(Side-note: Socialism is in essence about organizing the economy democratically so the fact that tankies have coopted the term to also mean totalitarian state capitalism unless democratic is added as a prefix is such a shame.)

[–] moss@lemmy.blahaj.zone 4 points 9 months ago

thank you for clearing things up for people

[–] sharkfucker420@lemmy.ml 4 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago) (2 children)

Edit: apparently I have it backwards actually, disregard

You may be confused by the term you're using, taken separately the definitions of the words feel as though they should mean what you intend them to mean but together they are used to refer to capitalism with restrictions which always inevitably leads to wealth inequality as capital takes indirect and then direct control of the government.

The socdem system is temporarily great for the people living within it but unfortunately it cannot survive without the exploitation of people outside of the country. This is commonly seen in the global south as corporations exploit cheap labor to keep prices low in their primary retail countries usually in the west. This is literally a form of imperialism.

Now I might have just explained all this to someone who is already well aware and if that's the case I apologize.

Anyway the term you are looking for is socialist democracy. It's dumb that democratic socialism doesn't mean what it sounds like it should mean but unfortunately it doesn't.

[–] stratosfear@lemmy.sdf.org 10 points 9 months ago (1 children)

Democratic socialists argue that capitalism is inherently incompatible with the values of freedom, equality, and solidarity and that these ideals can only be achieved through the realisation of a socialist society.

From Wikipedia

[–] moss@lemmy.blahaj.zone 2 points 9 months ago
[–] boo_@lemmy.blahaj.zone 7 points 9 months ago (1 children)

Check my comment. Democratic socialism is correct here. Social democracy is what you're explaining.

[–] sharkfucker420@lemmy.ml 4 points 9 months ago

My bad, added a disclaimer to the top of my comment