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I'm really enjoying lemmy. I think we've got some growing pains in UI/UX and we're missing some key features (like community migration and actual redundancy). But how are we going to collectively pay for this? I saw an (unverified) post that Reddit received 400M dollars from ads last year. Lemmy isn't going to be free. Can someone with actual server experience chime in with some back of the napkin math on how expensive it would be if everyone migrated from Reddit?

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[โ€“] reric88@beehaw.org 2 points 1 year ago

Donate to the devs!

[โ€“] RagingNerdoholic@lemmy.ca 2 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

Really, the only direct cost of lemmy is the development. That's the beauty of lemmy's decentralized nature, the cost of actually running it is spread out among tech hobbyists with spare hardware and time (edit: and only ~$30/year or less for a domain name), or may even have some money to throw at new hardware. For most people, the connectivity doesn't incur any additional cost to whatever they're already paying for internet access.

There are plenty of free and excellent open source projects that neither charge money or generate profits, they're driven by passionate developers who give their and talent for the enjoyment of it and betterment of the community.___

[โ€“] freedomenjoyer@sh.itjust.works 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Communities can get quite big, the big communities would be quite expensive to be hosted right?

[โ€“] RagingNerdoholic@lemmy.ca 2 points 1 year ago

I don't host any instances myself, but I have experience with web hosting in general. Yes, the hardware will need to scale vertically with more activity, but I don't know what lemmy's anticipated load thresholds are.

I would guess a decent i7 with an SSD and 16GB+ RAM would handle lemmy quite comfortably for a good while. So the expense isn't entirely trivial, but it's nothing compared to a centralized service with hundreds of millions of regular users.

It's literally all donated

[โ€“] linuxduck@nerdly.dev 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I bought a server for about 100 a year... With my whopping 2 users... It's overkill... So... My comment is a wasted way of saying idunno

[โ€“] Lemon_Man@lemmy.ml 1 points 1 year ago (2 children)

sell checkmarks like Tumbler.

for x$ a month get a checkmark next to your name on posts. in whatever colours you pay for. buy checkmarks for others.

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[โ€“] Valmond@lemmy.ml 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I'd love hosting a chunk on my anyways online Linux box (and if it was easy I could put up another junk box or two (like i3-i5 8GB 256GB-512GB/1-4TB) if it fits on a 1Gb ethernet line, but I admit I don't have the time (/energy) for all the stuff around (I'd do backups) especially if the hardware breaks or there are troll infestations etc.

Before the whole world migrates to Lemmy, maybe we could hold on by teaming up in some way.

Maybe my shard should be about doing just that, and hopefully people wanting to set up 'lemmys' could gather and share experiences and help.

Thoughts?

[โ€“] Sethayy@sh.itjust.works 1 points 1 year ago

I've thought about contributing to lemmy because a built in decentralized hosting/backup solution would be ideal. Add in some heavy sandboxing and the more advanced users could donate their hardware usage to their favourite instance (ideally with ease) - then the load could even be broken up per instance, and it'd pretty much gaurentee the info will never be lost to time because anyone can host a backup

[โ€“] ehrenschwan@feddit.de 1 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Given that lemmy is an OSS project and decentralized, it draws a lot of people with knowledge and resources. You could easily host your own instance for your friends, to have them connect to other instances. And i think there are enough people in these communities that have some left over server resources to host their own instances.

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[โ€“] pproe@lemmy.ml 1 points 1 year ago (5 children)

I know that it is not a popular topic in 2023 but a blockchain currency that allows users to 'award' posts/comments (similar to tipping in /r/dogecoin days) could provide instance owners with a source of income by taking a small portion of tips on their server.

Such a system would likely scale alongside user activity (read server load) and would encourage higher quality content. Would love to hear peoples thoughts on this.

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[โ€“] V4uban@beehaw.org 1 points 1 year ago
[โ€“] venuswasaflytrap@lemmy.ml 1 points 1 year ago

I run a website that I pay for out of pocket. It's not super expensive and it's a hobby of mine, so I don't really mind.

The infrastructure I pay for wouldn't be able to handle thousands of users simultaneously, but it could easily handle a few dozen or a couple hundred people simultaneously.

I'm considering setting up a kbin/lemmy instance specifically for my niche interest (fencing). Across the English speaking internet, there isn't that large a regular online community, and I think the infrastructure would be affordable for one person out-of-pocket, as a hobby - maybe with a few donations once a year.

If every small community had someone doing something like this, it would basically self-solve

[โ€“] httpjames@sh.itjust.works 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Personally I plan on donating the price of Reddit Premium to my instance owner

[โ€“] Barbarian@sh.itjust.works 1 points 1 year ago

Whenever he figures out donations that is :))

I don't know what kinda person happens to have a massive server cluster sitting around waiting to go, but @TheDude is the dude, and the dude abides.

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