I went on there the other day and I wasn't really surprised. Getting the people to turn on eachother is the golden rule, and fairly easy. Most people just don't care. Fair enough. I personally like it better here.
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I think I've contributing factor that's likely is that the users that care already bailed and aren't on there anymore
Simply, there's not people I like anymore on Reddit or content I need. It's not a place for me now. I don't care what happens to it, I'll never go on it again. Thankfully I don't have mega niche hobbies so there's a lot of alternatives for me (forums or discords or kbin)
Those who have an issue are leaving and not commenting or upvoting each other anymore either. This creates a sort of feedback loop where people critical of Reddit get less positive feedback and either they adjust their opinion to fit the majority or get downvoted. Thus minority opinions are pushed into small communities or off the site entirely.
It‘s always kinda been that way tbh, I could still tolerate it cause who wants to hear Nazi or tankie opinions for example, but now I‘m thinking I‘d rather be uncomfortable with them than comfortable with this hivemind.
Beehaw defederated, I lost access to the communities I cared about, I started going back to reddit unfortunately.
Honestly learning how defederation works turned me off the plataform entirely, not only can it kill budding communities, the fact it can disable communications among users everywhere means its also incredible censoring power given to the instance admins and you as an user hoping they dont abuse it. I understand how its necessary for extreme cases, but having it exist just means it gets used trivially over reasons that dont deserve it.
Fuck, they really defederated from at least lemmy.world. Why? Are they trying to kill the platform? Lots of the bigger tech communities were over there, now I'm bummed out. Low-key hope this kills their instance or restricts new users joining over there because I don't want to have to make another account over there just to view the three communities I liked, and no one else should have to either, having a couple of mods silo themselves off from the rest of the network defeats the entire purpose of the fediverse.
Edit: read through the beehaw mods post explaining why they did it. I still vehemently disagree, but I understand why now, and it was premature to say I hope their instance dies
defeats the entire purpose of the fediverse.
I dunno, this seems like really backward thinking to me.
It only "defeats" the point of the fediverse if the point of the fediverse is to be replacement-Reddit. The fediverse is unique from other such platforms in that it has the ability for instances to defederate. If anything, being able to defederate is the point of the Fediverse. If a bigger instance starts to cannibalise a smaller instance's communities and cultures, they only have a defense at all because of federalisation.
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Most of us, the "chronically online" have a lot of voting power and are up to date with reddit and other options to use it. Now, most "left, AKA the majority of reddit users, are just casual users using reddit like any other social media. And most are the kind of people that browse without any form of adblocking
Well, people who have left the site will, by definition, not be the people who are still commenting over there.
And as others say, probably a some bots are involved.
Exactly. I just.. Stopped using it. Everyone else like me wouldn't be part of the conversation.
I could certainly see them gaming the algorithm a bit too, to make it look more active. I think we'll just have to wait and see, if advertisers/investors pull out.