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Anything about the lemmy.ml instance and its moderation.

For discussion about the Lemmy software project, go to !lemmy@lemmy.ml.

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It should come as no surprise that the lemmy.ml admin team took about 2 minutes to decide to pre-emptively block threats / Meta. Their transparent and opportunistic scheme to commodify the fediverse and it's users will not be allowed to proceed.

We strongly encourage other instance administrators to do the same, given the grave threat they pose to the fediverse.

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[–] sneezy@lemm.ee 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

People left reddit because of corporate f*ckery, and some of them are now making excuses for meta?? What kind of mental gymnastics is this?

[–] BaconIsAVeg@lemmy.ml 1 points 1 year ago

A lot of people left Reddit because it was a drowning ship. They didn't flock to the fediverse because of what it stands for, and they'll happily bounce over to the next popular corporate run data farm at their earliest convenience.

[–] Gsicht@lemmy.ml 1 points 1 year ago

Excellent. Big corporations go against the very idea of the fediverse.

[–] v4ld1z@lemmy.zip 1 points 1 year ago

Good riddance

[–] Luxsidus@lemmy.ml 1 points 1 year ago

Joined a few Lemmy instances, but the admin team taking actions like these might make lemmy.ml my main place to go. Anything corporate is irredeemable.

[–] MysticSmear@lemmy.world 0 points 1 year ago (3 children)

I don’t understand this logic. Don’t we want Lemmy to be more mainstream and user friendly? Preemptively blocking any mainstream attempt to connect and bring in more users just sounds slightly petulant to me. Like I get meta = shitty company but I don’t get why we shouldn’t encourage more people joining the fediverse. And getting external help in growing it. And threads was the first mainstream olive branch that showed Lemmy, Kbin, and mastodon has legitimacy worth building infrastructure to join.

Idk blocking other people categorically from connecting just seems antithetical to the idea that it should be a decentralized system free to all to join.

But I’m new here, so maybe Im mistaken on the ethos of Lemmy.

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[–] marito@lemmy.world 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Hi guys, I'm new here from Reddit and I'm still learning about Lemmy and the Fediverse. Can someone ELI5 how not blocking Threads can negatively affect this community? Thanks.

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[–] hawkwind@lemmy.management 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)
[–] Sailing7@lemmy.ml 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Could you tell me where you got this view?

[–] AndyPanic@lemmy.ml 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)
[–] Shatur@lemmy.ml 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I see that Lemmy federates with several Mastodon instances. But how can I see content from them?

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[–] lemuria@lemmy.ml 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Good riddance to Meta's bullshit. Stop them before they get to the first E in EEE.

Here's a sign to put up at the border between Lemmy.ml and Threads, which will surely have a 100-meter wall built on it with 50 kV electric fences, barbed wire, watchtowers, snipers, and whatever to keep those Meta corporate fuckers out.

Threads Quarantine Zone sign

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[–] Vlyn@lemmy.ml 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Thank you!

Meta will only go full on E/E/E on the fediverse, even by "accident" (like adding new features and breaking the standard). Better choke them off right from the start and build small organic communities instead.

[–] kava@lemmy.world 0 points 1 year ago (3 children)

Ok so they make new features on their threads platform. All of a sudden cross posting from lemmy to threads gets more difficult because they aren't respecting the standard.

Now what? Are all Lemmy users gonna flood over to Threads now? The vast majority don't even want to federated to Threads, let alone migrate their accounts.

I think this whole thing is overblown. EEE is a real thing but nobody has yet to provide a concrete mechanism that can come about from just federation with Threads.

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[–] Strangle@lemmy.world 0 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Can someone eli5 what’s going on with this?

[–] BrooklynMan@lemmy.ml 0 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

meta is trash and we don’t want its data getting all snuggly with ours. because ew.

now you’re up to speed.

edit: data privacy concerns are the main issue

[–] astraeus@programming.dev 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

If Meta can federate with an instance, it can collect all the available data within that instance. This seems to be what everyone is overlooking on the downsides of Meta federation.

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[–] bleph@lemmy.world 0 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Assumption 1: Meta / Mark Z are objectively untrustworthy

Assumption 2: The Fediverse is a threat to the entire internet advertising machine

Assumption 3: Threads will be a hospitable place for right wing hatemongers. Therefore, federating with it exposes our most vulnerable users and communities to a deluge of (often invisible) hate and harassment.

Assumption 4: Most of the ways that they could use their billions of users and army of programmers to slowly choke us off would go through federation

I think if you believe all four of those assumptions defederation is the clear choice

[–] synth@lemmy.world -1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

preemptively blocking an instance just because it’s owned by meta and not due to bad conduct is cringe as fuck

[–] MeetInPotatoes@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago

In what universe are you living in that meta does not have a history chock full of bad conduct?! Frog, meet scorpion.

Oh, and stop misusing "cringe" while you're at it.

[–] zShxck@lemmy.ml -1 points 1 year ago

Good thing, i don't want anything to do with Meta's crap either. If someone is complaining he can always do an account somewhere else.

[–] Eikichi@lemmy.ml -1 points 1 year ago

Its Nice to hear

[–] yogthos@lemmy.ml -1 points 1 year ago
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