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[–] vexikron@lemmy.zip 5 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago) (6 children)

At this point I have landed at:

Someday I am going to get a used adventure bike, and modify it to be a hybrid capable of electric only at low speeds / low acceleration, and charge that with solar panels.

Why not an electric bicycle?

Theyre astoundingly overpriced for what they are.

Why not public transportation?

Well obviously use that whenever possible, but I like the hybrid concept because if you run out of fuel, you can do electric running, or if power goes out, you can charge batteries or run important equipment via the gas motor going through a transformer into a battery yada yada.

That and it'll be useful to be able to cruise around on said motorcycle when our modern american civilized society finally collapses into chaos.

I am all for urban redesign projects and locally sustainable diverse economies and all that, but i dont have faith enough of that will happen quickly enough to basically make it totally safe to just stay in one particular metro area.

EDIT: I suppose maximum utility apocalypse bike would also be capable of running on ethanol, and maybe even somehow whatever the proper name for the fuel refined from fast food restaurant grease is, forget the name. Ive heard it makes your vehicle smell like french fries though lol.

[–] The_Sasswagon@beehaw.org 3 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago) (1 children)

Our ebike takes about the same amount of time as driving for most of our trips and nearly halves public transit time to some places we go. It was about 2k, and for that price it has been an actual steal. I think we put about 1.5k miles on it in the first year, and cost wise I think it'll break even at about double that.

It doesn't sound like ebikes are overpriced, it sounds like you don't find value in what an ebike does. And that's totally ok, especially if you're advocating for making your community more healthy and doing your best to live that way too.

It is a real shame that ebikes weren't subsidized like electric cars are, that would have changed the equation a lot for folks who are more on the fence and could have started a shift where more people want safer places to use their new bikes.

Edit: just read your reply to the other folks, you get it. I gotta wake up more before I start commenting

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[–] JoYo@lemmy.ml 4 points 11 months ago

those green check marks, ill take both!

[–] answersplease77@lemmy.world 4 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago) (2 children)

You forgot about the material extraction and carbon emissions for manufaturing a new electric car. Can someone link the data for it please?
Edit: The article in below reply says it best. Lithium extraction and manufaturing emissions for electric cars are bad for the environment but still dozens of times better than ICE cars lifecycle emissions

[–] soggy_kitty@sopuli.xyz 3 points 11 months ago

It heavily depends on the battery technology used in that particular vehicle and the economy of scale. The emissions reduce as the build batches increase

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[–] ReakDuck@lemmy.ml 3 points 11 months ago (8 children)

Well, would be nice if we would have automatic Taxis. Less of the issues like Parking lots but still a lot of issues present.

[–] Mataresian@lemmy.dbzer0.com 4 points 11 months ago

It should be automatic this year!... Ooh wait.

[–] blackn1ght 4 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Why does it matter if they're driverless or not? They still perform the same function and go off and serve other people when you're not using one.

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[–] lseif@sopuli.xyz 3 points 11 months ago

look how little that electric cars have to sacifice, while costing twice as much! so efficient!

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