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[–] some_guy@lemmy.sdf.org 85 points 10 months ago (3 children)

They couldn't define "communism" then, they can't define "socialism" now. No change.

Oh shit. I didn't even realize. We implemented desegregation and we've been a communist state ever since! Holy fuck!

[–] PugJesus@kbin.social 28 points 10 months ago

Damn, here I thought I was living in a capitalist dystopia. Truly, the race mixers pulled one over on me. Must be the mixed blood in me making me vulnerable to communist brainwashing.

[–] 21Cabbage@lemmynsfw.com 0 points 10 months ago

Other than it's now these fuck's kids were dealing with and they've diversified the focus their hatred a little.

[–] Honytawk@lemmy.zip -3 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Pretty sure most communist states are pro-segregation as well.

[–] some_guy@lemmy.sdf.org 1 points 10 months ago

That comment requires some evidence.

[–] Gloria@sh.itjust.works 50 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago) (1 children)

OCTOBER 3, 2018 The Cruelty Is the Point

But it’s not the burned, mutilated bodies that stick with me. It’s the faces of the white men in the crowd. There’s the photo of the lynching of Thomas Shipp and Abram Smith in Indiana in 1930, in which a white man can be seen grinning at the camera as he tenderly holds the hand of his wife or girlfriend. There’s the undated photo from Duluth, Minnesota, in which grinning white men stand next to the mutilated, half-naked bodies of two men lashed to a post in the street—one of the white men is straining to get into the picture, his smile cutting from ear to ear. There’s the photo of a crowd of white men huddled behind the smoldering corpse of a man burned to death; one of them is wearing a smart suit, a fedora hat, and a bright smile.

Their names have mostly been lost to time. But these grinning men were someone’s brother, son, husband, father. They were human beings, people who took immense pleasure in the utter cruelty of torturing others to death—and were so proud of doing so that they posed for photographs with their handiwork, jostling to ensure they caught the eye of the lens, so that the world would know they’d been there. Their cruelty made them feel good, it made them feel proud, it made them feel happy. And it made them feel closer to one another.

https://www.theatlantic.com/ideas/archive/2018/10/the-cruelty-is-the-point/572104/

[–] superbirra@lemmy.world 3 points 10 months ago (1 children)
[–] H2SO4@kbin.social 8 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago) (1 children)

Luckily it wasn't paywalled for me. Does this work for you? It's definitely worth the read.

[–] superbirra@lemmy.world 2 points 10 months ago

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[–] ThatWeirdGuy1001@lemmy.world 44 points 10 months ago (2 children)

I regularly think about how many of our sweet old grandparents were among these crowds.

How many of our doting loving grandmother's were hurling racial slurs at the top of their lungs?

How many grandfather's strung up the rope for the lynch mob?

These things ended less than a full generation ago

[–] newtraditionalists@kbin.social 25 points 10 months ago (1 children)

If you look at the Ruby Bridges pictures you'll see school aged kids who are still very much alive and vote like crazy. I pointed this out to my brother one day and he was totally caught off guard. And he's a pretty smart dude, it's just something that has been framed as "in the past" to us our whole lives by pretty much every institution. Propaganda works, very insidiously.

[–] Acrimonious@lemmy.world 14 points 10 months ago

The civil rights museum in Memphis,TN is amazing. What made it impactful to me is very much that. Seeing the buses, diners, the hotel, all modern things made me realize these things basically just happened. Black Americans have had a long arduous road to just exist in the country they were forced to come to. And they're always being gaslit, told it happened long ago, didn't happen, it wasn't that bad etc.

[–] ricecake@sh.itjust.works 8 points 10 months ago

Most of them were probably just quiet racist beliefs at home and in implicit ways in public.

It's easier to miss, but it's also easier to retreat from, since it's not such a public belief.

Just like most people weren't civil rights activists, most also weren't frothing rally style racists.

[–] charonn0@startrek.website 25 points 10 months ago (1 children)

It just goes to show how empty and dishonest racist rhetoric really is.

[–] zzzz@lemmy.world 16 points 10 months ago (1 children)

And anti-communist rhetoric, for that matter.

[–] AngryCommieKender@lemmy.world 2 points 10 months ago (1 children)
[–] PugJesus@kbin.social 2 points 10 months ago (2 children)

Wilson: the shithead that just keeps shitting

[–] Semi-Hemi-Demigod@kbin.social 1 points 10 months ago

There's a perverse kind of symmetry in Reagan's middle name being Wilson

[–] fsxylo@sh.itjust.works 22 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Man, communism really never meant anything other than "shit we don't like" in America.

[–] PugJesus@kbin.social 10 points 10 months ago

My favorite modern example is 'Marxist corporations'

[–] Sanctus@lemmy.world 20 points 10 months ago

Reminder that our dark past is still ongoing.

[–] sdcSpade@kbin.social 18 points 10 months ago

I've yet to see anything top "Seat belts are Communism". I hope I live long enough to see the circle complete itself with "Capitalism is Communism".

[–] Mr_Blott@lemmy.world 12 points 10 months ago

Crazy to think that over 20 years before that, US army generals had to brief their troops that were stationed in the UK to be ready to meet black troops in the pubs

[–] BustinJiber@lemmy.world 12 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Did they had a lot of blacks in communist USSR in the 60s?

[–] FireTower@lemmy.world 10 points 10 months ago

I don't know about blacks but they had a lot of reds. /s

[–] antidote101@lemmy.world 12 points 10 months ago

Mental note, make meme, top panel, this picture and text "Race mixing is communism"

Bottom panel, Trump in a tux with the text "Race mixing is Cultural Marxism".

[–] Pratai@lemmy.ca 6 points 10 months ago

Colorize that and it could pass as a trump rally from just yesterday.

[–] someguy3@lemmy.world 6 points 10 months ago

The guy on the right always gets me how he holds the flag. (I think this photo is cropped, I think there's a larger one.)

[–] NegativeLookBehind@kbin.social 5 points 10 months ago

Fucking idiots.

[–] rhythmisaprancer@kbin.social 3 points 10 months ago

Folks like this really are goal oriented. Give them a goal, and a framework that will help them achieve it, and they will pursue it unquestionably. It must have been images like this that inspired Bukowski.

[–] 1050053@lemmy.world 3 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Guy in the white shirt looks like a very confused Colin Farrell from the future.

[–] postmateDumbass@lemmy.world 2 points 10 months ago

Flag peen guy on the far right...

[–] penquin@lemm.ee 1 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago)

"Race mixing is communism". Lmao How? Stupid has always been strong in ~~thr~~ the US.

[–] carnimoss@lemmings.world 0 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago) (1 children)

I might get flack for this but I don't get the segregation thing because race is more trivial than AGAB. Usually people use AGAB to talk about health concerns. It seems race is a thing because we make it a problem.

[–] OneOrTheOtherDontAskMe@lemmy.world 8 points 10 months ago

I mean, race is a thing when it comes to likelihood of certain diseases and handfuls of medications affect some groups differently than others. There are legitimate differences in trends of bone structure/length/shaping. Like, even if you're not outwardly presenting as being black, like if your family is Hispanic mixed but mostly Hispanic, sickle cell anemia is highly prevalent in the black community and you SHOULD know things like that if only for the doctor to better understand the results and tests

Race, or at least what regions your genetic makeup best adheres to, can be important for dietary changes, as there have been some (I haven't looked at this in a decade) minor research in regard to whether eating foods similar to genetic ancestors might help that was inconclusive (I think. Mostly, if I remember, they just found some data to suggest people who have medditeranean ancestry benefit from adding fish to their diet, but so does everyone else for the most part).

Skin color matters for things like external medication absorption, varying levels of need for sunlight and vitamin d production. But other than that and the fringe elements above, yeah it's mostly just a thing because we make it a thing, but we've made it a thing for so long it's seemingly one of our 'stickiest' holdovers.