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[–] b3nsn0w@pricefield.org 5 points 1 year ago (1 children)

cars don't need to be driverless to be electric. i'm in favor of public transport but as long as we're in the long process of building it out it's still a lot better to have electric cars than gas guzzlers, with drivers still included.

there is a doctrine here where you fuck up a less optimal but easier solution just to force the world to adopt the better one but it's a shitty thing to do. public transport and electric vehicles aren't exclusive. in fact, for lower density stuff we will need buses and those should be electrified too.

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[–] itscozydownhere@lemmy.world 5 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (6 children)

In cities, yeah. Outside cities, impossible

But I'd love to rent autonomous electric cars to move

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[–] UhBell@lemmy.world 5 points 1 year ago (32 children)

You ever try taking your new mattress and bed frame on a train?

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[–] Smacks@lemmy.world 5 points 1 year ago

Been seeing a big push for trains in Florida and California lately, hopefully things with Amtrak go well and we see more lines implemented in the future

[–] psud@lemmy.world 5 points 1 year ago

Because many of us live in places where you must use a car, there are no alternatives

In such places electric public transport is nothing but a pipe dream

[–] drathvedro@lemm.ee 4 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (3 children)

Why is it that trains are always proposed as the alternative to cars? I, for one, really want PRT to succeed. It seems to be the best middle ground between efficiency and convinience.

[–] vox@sopuli.xyz 5 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (7 children)

trains are the most efficient way of moving between cities.
want to move around the city itself? just hop into an underground train.
and for shorter distances (like grocery stores and stuff) you can usually just walk.

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[–] hglman@lemmy.ml 4 points 1 year ago

It's a meme, not a comprehensive list of types of guided vehicles. No one is excluding them, nor should they.

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[–] DiabolicalDucks@lemmy.world 4 points 1 year ago (3 children)

Trains are electric. They use diesel generators to power the wheels.

[–] jabjoe 5 points 1 year ago

On a job, I went to site which services these things. Heart breakingly, after they have stripped down, serviced, and rebuilt the massive diesel engine, they run it, flat out, for 8 hours and all that energy, which could power a good chunk of the town, is thrown away as heat in a load bank. Plumes of dirty diesel exaughst are common on site.

[–] FireRetardant@lemmy.world 4 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Some trains can be connected to the grid 24/7 through overhead wires and/or onboard reserve batteries. This grid could be powered by greener sources of energy.

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