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[–] RootBeerGuy@discuss.tchncs.de 82 points 11 months ago (1 children)

I don't know, its missing putting your sample in a big grey machine and then getting a number from the big grey machine.

[–] Tavarin@lemmy.ca 39 points 11 months ago (3 children)

Don't forget putting your samples in the incubator and waiting overnight for cells to grow.

[–] Isoprenoid@programming.dev 19 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago)

Aren't these things the other 5% of biochemistry?

[–] Tar_alcaran@sh.itjust.works 9 points 11 months ago

Or not to grow.

[–] HubertManne@kbin.social 2 points 11 months ago (1 children)
[–] Tavarin@lemmy.ca 3 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Protein expression falls under biochemistry, and you need to grow cells for that.

[–] BluesF 3 points 11 months ago (2 children)

Look I spoke to Bill Nye and he said all scientists can grow cells sometimes, as a treat.

[–] Tavarin@lemmy.ca 2 points 11 months ago

I mean I get to do it as a chemist, so hell yeah Nye!

[–] 0x0@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Shit yeah. Where do computer scientists sign up?

[–] BluesF 3 points 11 months ago

Bioinformatics is the last door at the end of the hall. Be warned, we put it down there for a reason.

[–] Pregnenolone@lemmy.world 28 points 11 months ago

95% of all science work lets be real here

[–] alcoholicorn@hexbear.net 5 points 11 months ago (2 children)

Don't they have tools to do 100 at once, and machines to do 10,000 at once?

[–] MeowZedong@lemmygrad.ml 5 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Yeah there are robots, but they tend to be $500,000+ and many scientists in this field are tech luddites who are allergic to learning how to program a robot.

A postdoc will do the same work for (probably) less than 1/10 of the price AND do free overtime. Better yet, you can sometimes get students to do this work for free/nearly free.

That's also assuming they are able to get funding to cover any of these costs.

As for using a multipipetter, it just depends on the experiment and you can do ~10 at once.

[–] HubertManne@kbin.social 2 points 11 months ago

Also too there is a lot of prep to get those thousands at once. Maybe 10x the work rather than 1000x but if your doing basic research your looking at effects small scale. ramp up happens when results are promising.

[–] photonic_sorcerer@lemmy.dbzer0.com 3 points 11 months ago

Yeah, but those are for scaled up processes. If you're doing basic research, most of the time you'll want to do it yourself. Plus, those bots are very expensive.

[–] Immersive_Matthew@sh.itjust.works 3 points 11 months ago (1 children)

One of the jobs AI is going to replace

[–] Tar_alcaran@sh.itjust.works 22 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago) (2 children)

They already make machines to do repetitive pipetting, it's just that humans are cheaper and more widely usable.

[–] DudeBro@lemm.ee 10 points 11 months ago

Our lab's auto pipetter is broken about 60% of the time, most days we just shut it off and reroute specimens to the workbenches to do it by hand because it's faster than attempting to fix it or call customer service. Maybe once the good-for-nothing customer service repair phone line is replaced by AI it will actually function and be worth the half a million dollars we spent on this stupid machine, lol

[–] Immersive_Matthew@sh.itjust.works 1 points 11 months ago (1 children)

I am meaning more than just the piping as AI is starting to observe now too. Read here the other day that an AI is researching new materials unassisted in a lab.

[–] MeowZedong@lemmygrad.ml 1 points 11 months ago

You're lucky if people in the physical sciences know how to restart their computer. Sure, they're experts in their fields, but actively avoid learning new technology unless someone twists their arm.

The fields that could benefit from robots the most are the least equipped in terms of money and requisite tech knowledge to use a robot. Instead, you're likely to see them used in for-profit labs and those aren't the ones that tend to do novel research. Well-funded biotech and pharmaceutical companies are likely to have robots, but many of those don't want to do discovery-stage research. They tend to buy discoveries from public university labs.

[–] CADmonkey@lemmy.world 3 points 11 months ago

Where is the hand-crank centrifuge?

[–] janus2@lemmy.sdf.org 2 points 11 months ago

i majored in pipetting 💀

[–] AnUnusualRelic@lemmy.world 2 points 11 months ago

You do get to wear a cool lab coat though.