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[–] Lamedonyx@lemmy.world 81 points 11 months ago (1 children)

My favourite description of Light Yagami : a man who saw a slippery slope, and grabbed his sled.

[–] Mr_Reach@lemmy.world 14 points 11 months ago

Saw his bad ending and decided on a running start.

[–] Asafum@feddit.nl 62 points 11 months ago (4 children)

Honestly I really like when things aren't so damn formulaic. Most media is so damn predictable I get mad when I know what's coming and it comes.

I know there's a rule not to make the audience feel dumb, but if the audience is already dumb then you're just making even dumber media...

[–] bleistift2@feddit.de 23 points 11 months ago

There’s a saying in software development: If you make something foolproof, someone will build a better fool.

[–] qarbone@lemmy.world 14 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Why shouldn't you make the audience feel dumb? Is there rationale beyond people's pride?

I feel like making the audience feel dumb is the key to good mystery. "You had all the pieces, you just didn't put it together."

[–] hansl@lemmy.world 4 points 11 months ago

Because more people watched any Adam Sandler movie than people who watched Schindler’s List.

The majority of people, even if they’re not dumb dumb, prefer to watch easy movies at the end of a long day. And studio execs prefer to make more money than less.

There are studios that focus on smart and well done plots and movies, but that’s not what we’re talking about.

[–] damnthefilibuster@lemmy.world 9 points 11 months ago (2 children)

I’ve always wondered if the notebook is what made him into a sociopath or the tendencies were always there and the notebook just gave him an outlet.

[–] chicken@lemmy.dbzer0.com 7 points 11 months ago (1 children)

IIRC it was explained in the first episode that most people who find it don't use it much

[–] damnthefilibuster@lemmy.world 2 points 11 months ago

Oh that’s an interesting tidbit. Those episodes were soooo long that I’ve forgotten most of the initial story. I’ve yet to finish the show. Hopefully will get to it one of these days.

[–] SuzyQ@sh.itjust.works 5 points 11 months ago

I have always leaned towards the tendencies were always there and he finally had an outlet with the notebook.

[–] Jackcooper@lemmy.world 2 points 11 months ago

The detective sequel characters were so terrible tho. 4 real.

[–] rockerface@lemm.ee 55 points 11 months ago

So you know how there's a superhero that is blind and orients himself via sound, and there's a superhero that doesn't have any superpowers and just goes against villains with the gadgets he made himself? One of them is named Batman, and the other is Daredevil

[–] Tarquinn2049@lemmy.world 35 points 11 months ago (2 children)

I don't know the details, but my guess is sociopath versus person who loses sleep at night trying to spend more time helping people.

If the villain is a sociopath, they are going to make sure they always look presentable, it's a pretty important part of getting people to trust them.

[–] OneOrTheOtherDontAskMe@lemmy.world 23 points 11 months ago

In this instance it's:

Light, guy on right - police chief's son, genius student with good grades and a tennis champion for extra curricular to get into a good school. Has ideas about what people should die for and what isn't being punished. Loses same sleep as guy on left, or so we assume, but hes a sociopath so the loss of sleep is more to do with thinking and less to do with fear or regret

L (just the letter), guy on the left - internationally recognized detective. Also genius. Also really good at Tennis.. I guess. It comes up once. Works with police and police chief to find the bad guy. Suspects Light, tells him so and his dad and enrolls in the same college. Does care about people, will make decisions where others are hurt if necessary but does clearly have morals. Weird dude, sits funny, likes sweets.

[–] kakes@sh.itjust.works 17 points 11 months ago

Only thing you missed is that the "good guy" doesn't necessarily care very much about helping people. He just loves the thrill of the chase.

[–] smeg 23 points 11 months ago (1 children)

I do love a good 

[–] thorbot@lemmy.world 6 points 11 months ago

Ooh yeah right there baby on the 

[–] Suspicious@lemmy.wtf 12 points 11 months ago

That's the point tho

[–] Dio@lemy.lol 8 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Light Yagami, one of my favourite characters. A single reason why is this; he looks unassuming as this description described. One of other reasons, he is just relatable.

[–] dreadgoat@kbin.social 12 points 11 months ago (1 children)

You've had villain protagonist, and you've had relatable villain, but only in deathnote do you get relatable villain protagonist. Usually gotta read a century-old russian novel for that kind of stuff.

[–] damnthefilibuster@lemmy.world 3 points 11 months ago (2 children)

Oooh. Century old Russian novel is where it’s at!! Any recommendations?

[–] mittyta@lemmy.world 2 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Crime and Punishment of course

[–] gullible@kbin.social 7 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago)

>The hero is ugly and this makes me ANGRY
What did they mean by this?

[–] Pratai@lemmy.ca 4 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Wait…. They’re not all the exact same guy?

[–] dexa_scantron@lemmy.world 6 points 11 months ago (1 children)

^ me but with Dragonball Z

[–] I_Fart_Glitter@lemmy.world 4 points 11 months ago

I'm currently having this experience with Marple (BBC version of Agatha Christie's Miss Marple series). 4-5 young to middle aged British men in each episode, virtually indistinguishable. The ladies come in three flavors: young+pretty, young+plain and old. If there are two of any category they are also indistinguishable.