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[โ€“] hellothere@sh.itjust.works 11 points 11 months ago (1 children)

He doesn't face a dilemma, he's facing the inevitable consequences of his sheer incompetence.

The only achievement he has as PM, inflation "falling", isn't even due to his actions, but the BoE's.

[โ€“] mannycalavera 5 points 11 months ago (1 children)

I mean to be fair he did put in the Windsor Framework and that deal with Albania, so it's a stretch to say he hasn't done anything.

I'm just saying this for context, but feel free to pile on as is traditional. ๐Ÿคญ.

[โ€“] hellothere@sh.itjust.works 1 points 11 months ago (1 children)

If that is what we're having to class as success then that just proves the point.

[โ€“] mannycalavera 1 points 11 months ago (1 children)

I thought the point was that he didn't achieve anything, not that what he achieved wasn't successful.

[โ€“] hellothere@sh.itjust.works 1 points 11 months ago (1 children)

How is something that doesn't work an achievement?

[โ€“] mannycalavera 1 points 11 months ago

I don't want to play sematic games with you because I really don't give a shit and am not looking for an argument but...

Achievement: he finished the marathon.

Unsuccessful: he finished the marathon slower than his time last year.

Both can be true at the same time and it comes down to your interpretation of being a success which, I think we can agree for yourself, is never going to be favourable to Sunak / this government / any Tory. And that's cool: each to their own. But for others it might be true.

[โ€“] shiveyarbles@beehaw.org 3 points 11 months ago

Politicians are always "what's best for me" instead of "what's best for my constituents". Lol at his dilemma.

[โ€“] cupcakezealot@lemmy.blahaj.zone 1 points 11 months ago (1 children)

too bad starmer's stance on migration is literally the same thing. is it too much to ask for one party that isn't trying to cater to rabid ~~british xenophobes and racists~~ the working class?

[โ€“] hellothere@sh.itjust.works 7 points 11 months ago

is literally the same thing

I'm not the biggest fan of Labour's current policy, but it isn't true to say that they are literally the same, because they aren't.

Labour have consistently spoken out on why Rwanda is both morally wrong and legally unsound, and are proposing a policy where UK Gov would work with the French to stop boats crossing the channel, and other countries closer to conflict zones (like Greece) to co-operate on methods to deal with potential asylum seekers and those feeling war, famine, etc.

[โ€“] Syldon 1 points 11 months ago

Pretty pathetic piece imo. There has been 20 letters submitted more or less since Sunak took office. This just looks like Braverman's crew pushing the narrative that they are around, and that the FT is backing them on that. There is nothing in this to substantiate any increased support for Braverman or her cronies.

Article dating 22/10/23 here stating exactly the same narrative.