“She’s the only one making any sense at the minute. We’re sleepwalking into a race war,”
That's a very dangerous game she's playing. If she wasn't the Home Secretary, there'd be calls for her arrest as she's basically incited a riot.
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We’re sleepwalking into a race war
The irony isn't lost on me. He was right about the disparity of those arrested though. 26% of the far right were arrested, where as 0.03% of the Palestinian protesters were arrested. Those bloody trouble makers demanding peace.
Is it because they were unfairly targeted, or because they committed acts worthy of arrest?
If you watch various videos people posted on social media and not just the news ones (which also showed the same to be fair), it's really obvious they were looking for fights constantly. They were far right supporters and the old style football fans, drinking heavily and geared up for a fight (balaclavas, weapons etc). They really targeted the police, trying to goad them with chants and look for points of weakness in the lines, and it felt like the majority of people there were doing it or supporting those who were. There were almost no women and non white people. One thing I found funny was they were singing "England till I die" in most videos but in one to an obviously Welsh police unit, and they didn't see the irony there.
The march was complete opposite, it was a very diverse group of people, actually mainly women, marching through and chanting peaceful messages. They weren't squaring off to the police who were more on the sidelines. There were some small groups of people ready for fight and squaring off to the police at points or when the counter demonstrators were close but it was such a small minority overall. Even the videos where police took away some of the banners were quite civil. The protesters were arguing back with words only and no pushing and shoving.
I have to say, the police seemed to get it right and helped keep things as peaceful as possible considering the tension. A lot of eyes were on them. It seemed like half the protestors had cameras and there were tons of journalists looking for action.
Thanks for the detailed explanation - I guessed that would be the case and assumed there to be little substance to the "We are being targeted! Why are they arresting us and not them?" argument.
It is funny that both the left wing and right wing in the UK complain so much about the police "targeting" them more so than the other.
I do think they were very heavy handed during the blm protests and tend to have a soft spot for right wing protests because they themselves are historically right wing, similar to the US I guess. However, they have absolutely no time for these far right football hooligans and they know they are looking for trouble so no matter where they go to "protest" (I.e. drink lots and spew hatred) they tend to have to follow them and contain them from the normal public just going about their lives.
You will always get someone who wants to take advantage of a situation. Not all the pro-Palestinians were bad.
This is the best summary I could come up with:
Many stated explicitly that they had travelled to Whitehall because of comments made by the home secretary, Suella Braverman, who, days earlier, had claimed that police treated football supporters – such as Neale – unfavourably compared to “politically connected minority groups”.
So too was Tommy Robinson, founder of the anti-Muslim English Defence League, who had positioned himself in the middle of the throng, basking in the adulation of fresh-faced supporters who periodically chanted his first name.
As the pockets of “patriots” attempted in vain to reach the latest pro-Palestinian march, it was quickly evident that London was witnessing one of Britain’s biggest days of mass protest.
A vast crowd – 150 times the size of the gathering several hours earlier near the Cenotaph – was making its way south from Hyde Park towards the Thames, thousands of red and green Palestinian flags glowing in the sun.
As the numbers joining the protest continued to swell, sporadic shouts of the controversial chant “From the river to the sea” could be heard, further alarming those who say its meaning is laced with genocidal intent.
Last month, the Board of Deputies, Jewish Leadership Council and Community Security Trust asked prosecutors to look into whether chanting the slogan was a criminal offence.
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