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hey everyone. if you want to post links or discuss the Reddit blackout, its aftermath, and what's happening going forward, please localize it to this thread in order to keep things tidy! thanks! we'll see if we need to cycle the thread again before the end of this week, but i don't know that we'll need to

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[–] rknuu@beehaw.org 9 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (3 children)
[–] Fuyuhikodate@diggit.xyz 9 points 1 year ago (1 children)
[–] promitheas@iusearchlinux.fyi 5 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (3 children)

Shame its in German and I can't understand it. But do you think that letter will be effective? What if they start restoring my posts/comments? How do I escalate then?

Edit: With a little translation, my email is already on its way :)

[–] marshell@feddit.de 4 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Not a lawyer here, but from my naive understanding: HELL YEAH! I mean, it only works from Europe, but every company has to nominate a contract for GDPR inquiries. Once they received that inquiry, there is a mandated deadline. If they fail to comply, the data protection authority can fine a portion of their revenues (not profits). Please take my info with a grain of salt as I haven't verified them, but that is how I understand our system.

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[–] lovesickoyster@lemmy.one 3 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

List of hackernews folk are saying their changes were reversed https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=36354850-

I can confirm that at least my account that I nuked 6 months ago had the comments restored.

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[–] Yewb@kbin.social 9 points 1 year ago

I am pretty sure some of my comments about ellen pao spez and how bad of a decision they are making got straight up deleted from reddit alternatives yesterday.

[–] Rentlar@beehaw.org 9 points 1 year ago (1 children)

https://9to5mac.com/2023/06/15/reddit-blackout-third-party-apps/

Loving the Reddit dumpster fire thumbnail image they included. Mostly covering TheVerge's Huffman interview and pointing out how dumb he sounds as CEO.

[–] darkmugglet@lemm.ee 4 points 1 year ago

That article sums up my view pretty well. Huffman has alienated his users, advertisers and potential employees. Reddit is changing the symbiotic relationship between itself and the third party ecosystem that made Reddit was it is today, and has gone full parasite.

But agreed, the Reddit dumpster fire pic is awesome.

I think a lot is riding on Reddit's promised rollout of new mod tools. If the new mod tools aren't available before the 1st, or if they're woefully inadequate compared to those of third party apps, a lot of mods are going to be upset. Particularly those moderating large subs.

[–] jinno@kbin.social 8 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Rest of the week? No.

The answer is until they lower to a more reasonable price and work with Apollo and RIF (at the very least) so that they can keep their apps running while transitioning their users to a new pricing structure that will allow them to not be bankrupted in the short term because of the price adjustment.

[–] veaviticus@lemmy.one 10 points 1 year ago

It's just amazing really. Had they rolled out a reasonable rated plan, and maybe even a discount to highly known apps, and even set a "the price will go up each 6 months for the next 2 years till we reach this higher, but still reasonable price"... All the apps would have added a subscription model for like $0.99 a month and none of us would have really complained.

Like, honestly most of us would have paid and maybe grumbled slightly but said "that's the cost of maintaining this huge community, and I get more than $0.99 in value from it" and just kept shit posting on Reddit all day.

If they wanted to block AI models, limit the API keys to only well known apps or those that are manually verified to be not-an-AI by reddit admins.

It's amazing how dumb a corporation can be sometimes (or has some nefarious endgame ala Twitter)

[–] Casmael@u.fail 5 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Yeah I simply don’t understand the idea of limited blackouts in this case. Clearly the only viable option is complete silence until or unless certain demands are heard imo.

[–] Valdair@kbin.social 4 points 1 year ago

Complete silence is impossible. At best only a tiny fraction of power users are the ones invested enough to care about the impact of what Reddit's doing, and are willing to do anything about it. The 99% of the platform who are lurkers, by and large don't contribute, and just want the platform back open and for everyone else to stop complaining are what's being fought over.

If you shut down enough of the platform - which the power users and mods can do by setting to private, restricting posting, or simply not posting when they otherwise would have - then the lurkers go to the site, see nothing to interact with and leave (or at the very least, spend less time on the platform as there is "less" to do). Over a long enough time span that would have started showing up in a big way. But it wasn't going to happen in two days. If anything, the blackout was so telegraphed and so much news got stirred up that it would make total sense if their traffic was actually not impacted or was even high for those two days (at least in terms of clicks and votes, not posts and comments). The lurkers are still valuable to Reddit though - that's where their advertising revenue is coming from.

People mass deleting their post history will hurt the platform. Some big subreddits staying private will hurt the platform. Some small subreddits staying private will hurt the platform. All of those things can bleed away users and diminish Reddit's usefulness and dominance. Really the ideal outcome is we scare them enough that they pull back to a more reasonable position and things can continue as normal. Maybe Huffman gets ousted and they plan a longer timescale and more reasonable pricing.

[–] Csynthare@dataterm.digital 7 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I continue to be mystified at this. I couldn't make this many wrong decisions if I tried.

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