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Currently still in Nightly and only on 'Copy Link'. Still nice progress though.

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[–] DeathWearsANecktie@lemm.ee 241 points 1 year ago (8 children)

Great stuff. Firefox swinging the big dick about lately.

[–] SturgiesYrFase@lemmy.ml 63 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Just slappin the table with that fuckin toddler's leg.

[–] Hadriscus@lemm.ee 16 points 1 year ago (1 children)

brandishing that baby arm holding an apple

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[–] Risk 160 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Ooh. I hope this can be set as the default for 'Copy Link' and then I can just have the tracking when I actually want it.

[–] navi@lemmy.tespia.org 45 points 1 year ago (2 children)

have the tracking when I actually want it.

So never? I agree defaulting it would be great as long as it doesn't falsely remove anything.

[–] red@sopuli.xyz 35 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

Not all queryparameters are tracking, so the option to copy the actual href of the hyperlink is useful.

Most of the time I appreciate a feature that strips them automatically

[–] gkd@lemmy.ml 8 points 1 year ago

Yea, existing extensions get things wrong sometimes. I’m sure this will be the same - especially if sites start changing things to temporarily circumvent. Needs to be an easy way to grab the real URL just in case.

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[–] reverendsteveii@lemm.ee 117 points 1 year ago (3 children)

firefox removes tracking data

chrome wants to make it possible for websites to refuse to serve you data if you run unapproved software

there is, in fact, a good guy in the browser wars

[–] Far@lemmy.ml 17 points 1 year ago

Reading the chrome bit just made me disgusted lol

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[–] ZeroCool@feddit.ch 78 points 1 year ago (1 children)

That’s awesome! I use the Clear URLs extension and it does a great job but it’ll be nice to have this capability baked in.

[–] Transcendant@lemmy.world 57 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Had no idea something existed for this, I'm forever deleted annoying tracking info from links. Mozilla continues to impress me with their privacy additions... latest update notified me about email masking which looks like it'll be a major boon once I work out how to use it.

[–] lud@lemm.ee 6 points 1 year ago

Clear URL is great. Beware that it can break some login and payment sites though. The Addon unfortunately lacks a whitelist so you have to turn it on and off, so it's easy to forget to turn back on.

[–] 4am@lemm.ee 59 points 1 year ago (3 children)

This may be difficult to maintain as some query parameters might be necessary. How will they be sure they’re not stripping essential elements? Won’t this become an arms race to mask tracking elements as “legitimate” looking parameters?

Awesome if they can pull it off, though.

[–] Stumblinbear@pawb.social 57 points 1 year ago (1 children)

There are common, well-known tracking parameters that Google uses such as the ones starting with "utm_"

[–] funkless_eck@sh.itjust.works 12 points 1 year ago (1 children)

most of the time sharing utm links isn't helpful to the origin as if you copy a link from your email it'll have medium=email, but actually should now be medium=direct

[–] Stumblinbear@pawb.social 6 points 1 year ago

Anything is better than nothing. Besides, it's still useful because you can see where the original link was copied from, and you still have the referrer header

[–] Orbituary@lemmy.world 28 points 1 year ago (2 children)

A uBlock style community sourced list would be a great way to address this. Once it's in prod, an addon would be next.

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[–] NounsAndWords@lemmy.world 9 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Won’t this become an arms race to mask tracking elements as “legitimate” looking parameters?

Maybe, but only like 3% of people are using Firefox so, maybe not?

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[–] andrew_bidlaw@sh.itjust.works 57 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Another fine addition would be a cut of redirecting trash. If you post some link in some soc network, it would sometimes replace it with it's own link going through an outbound clicks tracker, safety pages 'Do you really want to follow it?' or just block you saying the link seems malicious.

If I'm a 3%er, can I choose not to have it?

[–] Nyfure@kbin.social 19 points 1 year ago (2 children)

There is an Extension called FastForward which skips ad-link redirectors.
Not sure if thats what you mean.

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[–] ForgotAboutDre@lemmy.world 12 points 1 year ago

I think Gmail on Android does this. Any link you click on in the app Firefox shows you the initial Google address before you go to the link you clicked on.

If you copy and paste the URL this doesn't happen.

[–] netchami@sh.itjust.works 41 points 1 year ago

Based Firefox

[–] ilinamorato@lemmy.world 40 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Neat. Now we need a built-in AMPutator.

[–] lud@lemm.ee 10 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Is AMP still a thing? I haven't seen it in ages.

I don't use Google so maybe that's why, but I hadn't even seen it on Reddit or Lemmy in more than a year I believe.

[–] ilinamorato@lemmy.world 13 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Oh man. I see it all the time. People share amp links on social too often.

[–] M137@lemm.ee 7 points 1 year ago

I see it pretty often. But most of the time, if an "AMPutator" bot doesn't reply, someone usually mentions it and says to stop sharing AMP links and provides links to information about it. It's good to see, but most people still aren't aware of it, and most of those people wouldn't care much. We all need to keep a lookout and always be ready to inform and teach others about it. It's good to have articles about how AMP is bad for everyone (except google) saved so we can quickly share them every time we see someone share an AMP link.

[–] Bosa@lemmy.world 30 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Firefox once again proving it’s the GOAT of browsers.

I’m sure this will come to mobile soon as well.

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[–] mrfbarros@lemmy.world 24 points 1 year ago

Would love to see this becoming a default !

[–] TheDarkKnight@lemmy.world 24 points 1 year ago

Fucking fantastic, People’s browser gets better and better!

[–] Napain@lemmy.ml 20 points 1 year ago
[–] disconnectikacio@lemmy.world 19 points 1 year ago (1 children)

This should be default, or at least a switch, that if enabled, all links copied without tracking. BTW i was thinking, isnt there a simple app or service, that does only this: listen for links in clipboard, if a link added, automatically removes tracking params, and replaces with that on clipboard?

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[–] dQw4w9WgXcQ@lemm.ee 14 points 1 year ago (1 children)

How does firefox determine which params are trackers and which params are required data?

[–] Fidelity9373@artemis.camp 12 points 1 year ago

Tried it yesterday. Not working on Amazon links quite yet, hopefully the feature improves. Would love the ability to toggle it for default.

[–] ultratiem@lemmy.ca 12 points 1 year ago (3 children)

It’s a shame they went for the additional option rather than a persistent setting that would always strip it from a URI.

[–] ChrisLicht@lemm.ee 8 points 1 year ago

Hoping that this is just testing for that to come.

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[–] iamzeN123@lemmy.world 10 points 1 year ago

wonder if they would actually bake in something like actually legitimate url shortener tool

[–] lazycouchpotato@lemmy.world 9 points 1 year ago

🙏

Happy to see this.

[–] toastal@lemmy.ml 9 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

I think I’m against this. Not because it’s the wrong thing to do, but it’s just going to swing marketers & such to obscure their tracking URLs to something like /my-slug/hashed-uid-for-tracking-without-query-param/post & it maybe unsafe or impossible to replace that part of the URL is some cases (think how not all credit cards numbers work, it has a built-in algorithm). The corpos can do this already now but query params are easier & less fiddly. Despite the large number of add-ons that could combat this already (including a uBlock Origin filter list), there wasn’t enough incentive to start another ad/tracking arms race… but you introduce it as a default feature in a major (🤞) browser, & now the corpos take notice instead of being able to wave it off as something a minority of users are doing.

…And I say this as the guy that reminds $WORK chat poster to remove their tracking URLs for the privacy of the group

[–] charles@lemmy.world 6 points 1 year ago

Will it work for Gmail's link hijackers where it routes you first to Google then forwards you to the actual site?

[–] tomjuggler@lemmy.world 6 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Yeah ok but my affiliate links what happens to them?

[–] Linus_Torvalds@lemmy.world 8 points 1 year ago

Valid question. Im short: They will stop working.

You are getting downvoted for the question because most people here think that you shouldn't use them. And they might be right.

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