this post was submitted on 01 Nov 2023
587 points (96.4% liked)

politics

19148 readers
2020 users here now

Welcome to the discussion of US Politics!

Rules:

  1. Post only links to articles, Title must fairly describe link contents. If your title differs from the site’s, it should only be to add context or be more descriptive. Do not post entire articles in the body or in the comments.

Links must be to the original source, not an aggregator like Google Amp, MSN, or Yahoo.

Example:

  1. Articles must be relevant to politics. Links must be to quality and original content. Articles should be worth reading. Clickbait, stub articles, and rehosted or stolen content are not allowed. Check your source for Reliability and Bias here.
  2. Be civil, No violations of TOS. It’s OK to say the subject of an article is behaving like a (pejorative, pejorative). It’s NOT OK to say another USER is (pejorative). Strong language is fine, just not directed at other members. Engage in good-faith and with respect! This includes accusing another user of being a bot or paid actor. Trolling is uncivil and is grounds for removal and/or a community ban.
  3. No memes, trolling, or low-effort comments. Reposts, misinformation, off-topic, trolling, or offensive. Similarly, if you see posts along these lines, do not engage. Report them, block them, and live a happier life than they do. We see too many slapfights that boil down to "Mom! He's bugging me!" and "I'm not touching you!" Going forward, slapfights will result in removed comments and temp bans to cool off.
  4. Vote based on comment quality, not agreement. This community aims to foster discussion; please reward people for putting effort into articulating their viewpoint, even if you disagree with it.
  5. No hate speech, slurs, celebrating death, advocating violence, or abusive language. This will result in a ban. Usernames containing racist, or inappropriate slurs will be banned without warning

We ask that the users report any comment or post that violate the rules, to use critical thinking when reading, posting or commenting. Users that post off-topic spam, advocate violence, have multiple comments or posts removed, weaponize reports or violate the code of conduct will be banned.

All posts and comments will be reviewed on a case-by-case basis. This means that some content that violates the rules may be allowed, while other content that does not violate the rules may be removed. The moderators retain the right to remove any content and ban users.

That's all the rules!

Civic Links

Register To Vote

Citizenship Resource Center

Congressional Awards Program

Federal Government Agencies

Library of Congress Legislative Resources

The White House

U.S. House of Representatives

U.S. Senate

Partnered Communities:

News

World News

Business News

Political Discussion

Ask Politics

Military News

Global Politics

Moderate Politics

Progressive Politics

UK Politics

Canadian Politics

Australian Politics

New Zealand Politics

founded 1 year ago
MODERATORS
top 50 comments
sorted by: hot top controversial new old
[–] HuddaBudda@kbin.social 161 points 1 year ago (5 children)

“Someone else offered much more, so what? Now they come up with something called ‘disgorgement.’ I never even heard of the term. WITCH HUNT!!! ELECTION INTERFERENCE!!!” Trump wrote.

Disgorgement is a remedy requiring a party who profits from illegal or wrongful acts to give up any profits they made as a result of that illegal or wrongful conduct. The purpose of this remedy is to prevent unjust enrichment and make illegal conduct unprofitable.

Congratulations, both me, you, and Donald Trump learned something new today.

[–] koolkiwi@lemmy.world 38 points 1 year ago

I highly doubt Trump learned something from this

[–] ArugulaZ@kbin.social 6 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I'm sure Trump's familiar with engorgement, however...

[–] Late2TheParty@lemmy.world 4 points 1 year ago

You could have NOT put that in my head! 🤣

[–] Haus@kbin.social 4 points 1 year ago

late 15th century: from Old French desgorger, from des- (expressing removal) + gorge ‘throat’.

load more comments (1 replies)
[–] grue@lemmy.world 115 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (3 children)

I love that "idiot sons" is actually part of the real headline.

[–] fluxion@lemmy.world 41 points 1 year ago

Nice to see more accuracy in news headlines

[–] ChaoticNeutralCzech@feddit.de 22 points 1 year ago

Not even quotation marks. Wow.

[–] banneryear1868@lemmy.world 6 points 1 year ago

I'm a fan of New Republic but it's a silly headline, should have used the proper term "failson."

[–] AdamEatsAss@lemmy.world 66 points 1 year ago (7 children)

Sometimes I wonder what he expects to happen? Both of his sons were always scheduled to testify, everyone else who testified were listed as witnesses from the start, like did no explain to him what that list of people meant? I can't tell if this is just a trump thing, or an old person thing, or a billionaire thing where you can't understand simple ideas like, " these people know something about the case, they will testify under oath about it." Also, $15000 fine for breaking a gag order doesn't seem like the right punishment for a "billionaire". If it were me on trial that would put me in debt, but Trump is a billionaire, $15,000 is not going to affect his life that much. It seems like the consequences need to scale based on the individual if you actually want people to follow the gag order.

[–] AFKBRBChocolate@lemmy.world 40 points 1 year ago (1 children)

He's all about controlling the narrative. He wants his base to get pissed off because "the libs are going after his kids to get back at him."

But go ahead and ask him what he thinks about all the Hunter Biden investigations.

He also wanted the entire trial shut down long before it got to this, so he's railing against an inevitability that he tried to avoid.

[–] FuglyDuck@lemmy.world 34 points 1 year ago

but Trump is a billionaire,

well. he says he is. In this one case, lets take him at his word and charge 15 billion instead.

[–] uphillbothways@kbin.social 28 points 1 year ago (8 children)

He's playing to his donors and staying in the headlines. He's pulling in millions in donations every time he complains. It's making a mockery of the judicial system and campaign finance to fleece his electorate. The gag order should have been much more broad.

load more comments (8 replies)
[–] TechyDad@lemmy.world 24 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I'm hoping that the $5,000 and $10,000 fines are the judge's way of making any future punishments appeal proof. M

If the judge went right to "jail Trump" on the first infraction, Trump could appeal and get the jail time reversed. What's more, Trump's lawyers might be able to allege that the judge was biased and get the whole thing tossed.

But if the judge starts slow and ramps up, it will be evident to any appeals court that the judge tried everything he could to avoid serious repercussions and Trump simply gave him no choice.

load more comments (1 replies)
[–] mycatiskai@lemmy.one 12 points 1 year ago

Add an exponent after each one. Should have been 5000 the first time then multiply by an ever increasing number each time. 10000, 30000, 120000, 600000, 3.6m ,25.2m

He would have to stop by 3.6 million since that is probably more liquid cash then he has available.

[–] MedicPigBabySaver@lemmy.world 7 points 1 year ago

Cheeto chimp is definitely not a billionaire. He's a lying, flim flam man.

load more comments (1 replies)
[–] Rhoeri@lemmy.world 62 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Trump Melts Down… if only. I’d love to see him as a puddle.

[–] DigitalTraveler42@lemm.ee 27 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (3 children)

"Trump on acid?"

"No, I said 'Trump in acid.'"

[–] lando55@lemmy.world 15 points 1 year ago (1 children)

"Trump stoned?"

"No, Trump getting crushed under a pile of increasingly larger stones."

[–] kittenzrulz123@lemmy.world 8 points 1 year ago

"Trump on crack" "No, Trump having all his bones cracked"

load more comments (2 replies)
[–] Balthazar@lemmy.world 53 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (3 children)

Seriously now, why is he so upset that his kids have to testify? It's not like they're being arrested. All they have to do is get up there and (at least pretend to) tell the truth. What's so awful about that?

[–] TechyDad@lemmy.world 45 points 1 year ago

He's probably afraid that they'll slip up and prove that he really did everything that's been claimed, that has a mountain of evidence, and that he's already been found liable for.

Wouldn't you be worried if your entire financial well-being depended on Don Jr and Eric?

[–] Pyr_Pressure@lemmy.ca 40 points 1 year ago

I'm hoping they ask questions that they know the kids will perjure themselves lying about and that they have proof that they know what the truth is.

[–] fleabomber@lemm.ee 36 points 1 year ago

He's losing. He's not talking to the court, he's talking to the "stand back and stand by" crowd.

[–] sagrotan@lemmy.world 33 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Ffs put that crap heap of a sorry excuse for a human being in jail already. Preferably supermax, I recommend Terre Haute, Indiana. No, wait, a 250% booked medium security with hundreds of beds in a school gym. Yeah. That'll do.

[–] Wojwo@lemmy.ml 11 points 1 year ago (3 children)

He'd be the leader of some skin head gang by the end of the first day. Enjoying special privileges from prison staff that are believers. It would put him in direct contact with very dangerous people that idolize the image he's projected, people he wouldn't normally be caught dead talking to.

I'd prefer house arrest for him, keep him comfortable enough to prevent too much complaints. Isolated enough to prevent damage. No visitors, no internet, but lots of Big Macs and KFC. His very own Elba.

[–] Bernie_Sandals@lemmy.world 5 points 1 year ago

Wait wait wait, now that you mention Elba, don't we have a bunch of bird shit islands that we could build a house on and ship mcdonalds to for him?

I'd be fine with that as long as there's no wifi and we never hear from him again.

load more comments (2 replies)
[–] assassin_aragorn@lemmy.world 25 points 1 year ago (1 children)

The Trump family and Musk are both prime examples of why you shouldn't pass on excessive wealth to your children. Your kids or grandkids will grow up to be complete idiots, or at least, they have a higher chance of it.

[–] Jax@sh.itjust.works 18 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Don't attribute to stupidity what can be attributed to malice.

Trump is an idiot. Musk is evil. Musk didn't buy Xitter to make it better, despite his claim of being capable of making it more profitable. He bought it using a shitload of Saudi oil money in order to destroy one of the largest platforms for leftist voices in the western world. This wasn't just him blustering into a 25 billion dollar loss on Xitter. What Musk does is very intentional.

[–] assassin_aragorn@lemmy.world 15 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Eh. I'll agree to disagree. There's a reason the razor is the exact opposite, to first attribute to stupidity and then to malice.

There's no way Elon would've agreed to trash his reputation like this to kill Twitter. He's far too egotistical and craves worship.

[–] Jax@sh.itjust.works 7 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (4 children)

Think about it this way.

He trashed the reputation he gained amongst well educated millenials to look good in the eyes of the same people who voted for Trump.

What's more important as a billionaire narcissist? Constantly having to navigate your support base, a support base you inherently disagree with, or developing one that will support you no matter what you do?

Idk, food for thought.

load more comments (4 replies)
load more comments (1 replies)
[–] PM_ME_WRISTS_GIRL@lemmynsfw.com 18 points 1 year ago (5 children)

'Meltdown' is his default state. It would be news if he had a melt-up.

[–] thorbot@lemmy.world 14 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Trump Melt-Up Sandwich: $32. Made with stale white gas station bread, coated with cheeto crumbs, filled with moldy bologna with a side of dog shit

[–] banneryear1868@lemmy.world 4 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Hi everyone it's me President Trump introducing the only official Trump Sandwich. It's got everything a sandwich should be with the outstanding quality you expect, you're truly going to love it. It's like luxury in your mouth I tell you, and look at this deal. I know you're thinking, "only this much for a sandwich? How can it be good? Well let me tell you, we have a great deal here that you'll only find through my official Trump brand." People are saying it's probably the best sandwich they've ever had, good people say this, people who love sandwiches, people who eat sandwiches every day... we love sandwiches don't we? Yes we love em! We love the sandwiches!! And now you're gonna love my sandwich, I know you are. I can't wait til you and all your loved ones try it, it's going to be so great, and it makes me so happy to share it with you.

[–] rifugee@lemmy.world 5 points 1 year ago (3 children)

Sorry, way too coherent to be believable.

[–] CADmonkey@lemmy.world 6 points 1 year ago

NOT ENOUGH CAPS. SAD!

load more comments (2 replies)
load more comments (1 replies)
load more comments (4 replies)
[–] Hello_there@kbin.social 10 points 1 year ago

I can't think of Eric trump without thinking of the SNL skits

[–] Treczoks@lemmy.world 9 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Anyone wondering where his sons inherited that stupid gene from?

load more comments (1 replies)
[–] badbytes@lemmy.world 8 points 1 year ago

Idiot is an understatement

load more comments
view more: next ›