this post was submitted on 04 Jul 2023
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Edit: obligatory explanation (thanks mods for squaring me away)...

What you see via the UI isn't "all that exists". Unlike Reddit, where everything is a black box, there are a lot more eyeballs who can see "under the hood". Any instance admin, proper or rogue, gets a ton of information that users won't normally see. The attached example demonstrates that while users will only see upvote/downvote tallies, admins can see who actually performed those actions.

Edit: To clarify, not just YOUR instance admin gets this info. This is ANY instance admin across the Fediverse.

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[–] dohpaz42@lemmy.world 25 points 1 year ago (17 children)

Out of curiosity, is there a particular set of circumstances where knowing how you voted on certain posts a bad thing? I would imagine that if you didn't want people to know you're voting/looking at specific posts, then you either don't vote/look at the posts, or you set yourself up an alt account on a different server. But let's be honest, if you'd be embarrassed by something you're looking at, maybe you shouldn't be looking at it. Just my 2¢.

[–] Maven@lemmy.sdf.org 26 points 1 year ago (2 children)

But let’s be honest, if you’d be embarrassed by something you’re looking at, maybe you shouldn’t be looking at it. Just my 2¢.

This guy out here forgetting porn exists

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[–] ImOnLemmyWow@lemmy.world 23 points 1 year ago (2 children)

I'm sure that someone will dox themselves, then somewhere else mention where they work. Post on some gonewild pages (is that a thing here) and then make a poorly worded opinion on a sensitive subject and lose their job. Of course Internet hygiene is important and you shouldn't dox yourself but after several years you'll slip up and these things will bite you .

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[–] agoramachina@lemmy.world 25 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Does it only log usernames, or does it record ip addresses as well? I am much more okay with one than the other.

[–] lieuwex@discuss.tchncs.de 21 points 1 year ago

Only your instance admin can see your IP.

[–] jerkface@lemmy.ca 25 points 1 year ago (3 children)

Holy shit. HOLY SHIT.

I just realized what this actually MEANS.

It means that when you like or dislike something so much that you unvote and then vote a second time, people can tell. This will change karma forever.

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[–] NewBrainWhoThis@lemmy.world 23 points 1 year ago (7 children)

What does this mean for admins regarding GDPR? Is lemmy still not GDPR complient? Are there options in place if users request their data?

An issue has already been raised: https://github.com/LemmyNet/lemmy-ui/issues/1347

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[–] cakeistheanswer@lemmy.fmhy.ml 22 points 1 year ago (5 children)

Fully expected to be buried since I'm late to the party.

That's really only half of it, there is no real erasure possible when everyone's holding a cached copy. Personally... I kind of like it, I don't hold any value to the words I contribute here as long as they're for everyone.

But everything and everyone is living in concentric glass houses here.

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[–] Popsip@pawb.social 22 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (6 children)

So if one downvotes something and then removes that vote, does doing that removes it saying they downvoted or does it still keep it on record?

[–] muddybulldog@mylemmy.win 21 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (2 children)

I had to run an experiment on this one.

It appears that changing you vote causes the old vote to be completely deleted from the database and a new vote cast and propagated.

Edit: The above description is what happens in the COMMENT_LIKE or POST_LIKE table HOWEVER the ACTIVITY table reflects both actions, which makes sense since it's a complete transaction log. So, it's a slightly more complex query but the history is maintained.

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[–] fishos@kbin.social 21 points 1 year ago (2 children)

That said, don't just call people out who downvote you. No one owes you an explanation if they thought your post was bad. I've already seen it once and it was pretty childish.

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[–] nothacking@discuss.tchncs.de 21 points 1 year ago (2 children)

If you are doing anything tgat could get you in legal trouble on the internet, only use acounts that can not be linked to your real life identity, and always use tools like Tor. Do not depend on tools like private messages, private voting, etc. In those cases, there is always someone who can give you away, and service admins will give out information when the feds come knocking.

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[–] NumbersCanBeFun@kbin.social 20 points 1 year ago (9 children)

I only downvote awful/hateful comments so I usually stand by what I strike down. I can understand why this may concern others though.

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[–] MiddleWeigh@lemmy.world 19 points 1 year ago

Shortly after joining I realized I was being a bit too honest on here lol. Can't help it. Haven't been on SM in a few days, in hiding from people, now back to my ditch to die. Love you!

[–] daniskarma@lemmy.world 19 points 1 year ago

I've been in forums where upvotes were public. It's not something that I expect to be anonymous by design.

That being said. If something is public, it should be clear that is public (and available to everyone), if it's not it should be protected.

I think Lemmy should go one way or the other, or upvotes are public to everyone, or they are available only for you instance admins.

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