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Question: in 2019 Australia passed an encryption law that requires every piece of software used in Australia to have a back door for law enforcement to access to βcounter terrorismβ, wank, wank.
Does Signal have back door access in Australia?
I use signal on my phone and laptop but a while back they stopped supporting tablet versions. Wish they would bring that back.
I heard its used by media people to contact each other or their sources which is a little convincing.
My problem with Signal is that nobody I know uses it, which unfortunately makes it useless.
Other than that, I genuinely think it's pretty great. But you'll have to persuade people to leave Facebook and WhatsApp en masse before it becomes ubiquitous enough to be useful.
Funny how things can be different. In my circle everybody uses it, even my mom. We've also had a very active group chat with my friends for many years in Signal.
I've been using Telegram primarily and it's nice being able to logon to any device and have my chat history, but it doesn't seem secure at all. I imagine the NSA has direct access to it.
Isn't Telegram developed by russians?
The CEO is Russian. He formerly owned VK and sold it off to the Russian govt iirc. Though, he didn't sell it off without destroying documents containing user info which the Russian govt wanted which in resulted in a warrant for his arrest. Telegram now operates in Dubai with teams working in several other countries like Ukraine. He chose Dubai mainly because of their laws that so far have been favorable to tech companies and not being so heavy handed on censorship.
There are 8 data centers none of which last I read operates in Russia. I think there used to be one until Russia banned Telegram as the company refused to allow access to their servers. The ban was lifted several years later but Telegram still hasn't opened a data center there. And the way these data centers work is chats are excepted and the encryption keys to those chats are never stored in the same location. For years governments like Germany and India have been finding Telegram for either not taking down content they don't like or not doing enough to suppress speech. I believe Germany is in the lead as every year they keep leveling millions of dollars worth of fines.
Of course, feel free to do your own research as a lot of this is off the top of my head what I read over the years and why I remain using Telegram as my primary "do everything" for light social media and messaging friends and family.
I do like the simplicity of Signal though but I always worry about losing my backup data like I did once and would hate to lose all that history and photos shared with text context somehow if my phone ever got lost (knock on wood never happened).
I look forward to Signal ditching the need to share phone numbers and instead use usernames. But for now, Telegram has a lot of flexibility and utility that Signal doesn't have or can ever match due to the focus of said app.
Love signal, just for me, I know 2 people who use it. Tried to get a group chat to move there but WhatsApp has too big a grasp.
Here in the US at least, Whatsapp is not nearly as prevalent as some other parts of the world. I got all my coworkers in my 6 person department to use it. I got my SO to use it. Somehow getting my family to start a group chat was one of the harder ones. I'll keep doing my part :)
I love Signal, but was unable to convince enough of my network to migrate. They are mostly stuck using Meta's spyware (Instagram and Whatsapp). In the end, Telegram seemed like a good mid-way for enough of my friends and peers.
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My main messaging app is telegram, what would be the advantage in moving to signal? ( Pretending I manage to convince at least my main contacts )
There's the rub. Unless privacy is your highest priority there isn't any advantage. I wish I could convince my main contacts to move but convenience is a higher priority for them.
I think Signal is trying too hard to be secure, and they are missing a lot of convenience features.
For example, you can't migrate from Android to iOS or vice versa. You'll lose all your messages and groups.
Or it's really hard to export all the photos someone sent you. I get that my iCloud library isn't as secure, but I really want to make sure I don't lose those photos if I lose my device. The photos aren't that sensitive.
The security notifications are also well-meaning, but hard to make sense of. You sometimes get notifications for changed security numbers, when people change their phone, sometimes folks show up twice in groups, etc. It's all a bit hard to understand and difficult to use.
And finally, it seems that messages are sometimes delivered a bit unreliably or with a long delay.
The only information that is stored on the Signal servers for each account is the phone number you registered with, the date and time you joined the service, and the date you last logged on."
Ahem, and a list of contacts, they've improved since, but it used to be that this was a simple hash of the phone number which is obviously vulnerable to a very easily generated rainbow table.
It has its downsides as well. Though better than WhatsApp and telegram obviously
What about Matrix? Much better, IMO