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[–] s08nlql9@lemm.ee 185 points 1 year ago (6 children)

as a web app, it can be installed on any device that has a browser. Dev doesn't also need to publish his work in app/play stores which may require extra payment

[–] lukenamop@lemmy.world 107 points 1 year ago (7 children)

And since it doesn’t have to be published in any app stores, it can be updated much more quickly and frequently.

[–] Thedogspaw@midwest.social 63 points 1 year ago (1 children)

No kidding I think it had like 4 updates yesterday 🤣

[–] techgearwhips@lemmy.world 41 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (2 children)

This. I pressed update on my Android, iPhone, and Desktop and it only took like half a second. This PWA is scary good.

[–] Thedogspaw@midwest.social 14 points 1 year ago (3 children)

I thought pwa were supposed to suck but I honestly haven't even looked at any other apps because wefef works so well

[–] techgearwhips@lemmy.world 6 points 1 year ago (3 children)

The first time I found out PWA don't suck is when I tried justchilltv last month. Another dope one

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[–] pixxel@discuss.tchncs.de 6 points 1 year ago (5 children)

that's something i like with react native and over the air updates. In the app i ship at my job, when its only the javascript bundle that's updated we can actually update without the user ever knowing, they just get a slightly longer load time on that startup of the app, making rather easy ensuring that no users are running out of date and broken code.

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[–] deranger@lemmy.world 16 points 1 year ago

The portability is awesome. I switched to wefwef and had it going on all my devices in minutes. Web apps don’t have to suck. Apps also have more privacy implications than a PWA.

[–] Pleonasm@programming.dev 7 points 1 year ago

I think from the point of view of speed/ease of development, the webapp makes more sense for now. Once it's more stable, perhaps a native app is worth trying for performance reasons.

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[–] throne_deserter@lemmy.world 87 points 1 year ago (2 children)

This is the first web app that I have used which installs, updates, and works like it does. I literally had no idea that something so streamlined and efficient could be done in such a way. Hats off to the developer, I’ll gladly buy wefwef if he ever makes it available on the App/Playstore.

[–] techgearwhips@lemmy.world 16 points 1 year ago (5 children)

This, Justchill, and Seez are so good, they have me considering learning how to make PWA. I went down a ionic, react native, and flutter rabbit hole yesterday. Lol

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[–] 2bR02b@lemmy.one 68 points 1 year ago (2 children)

“It’s so good it should be something else” - can’t argue with that thought process

[–] coffeebiscuit@lemmy.world 19 points 1 year ago (1 children)

It’s so good it makes a lot of apps really disappointing.

[–] notfromhere@lemmy.one 12 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

I see a lot of duplicate comments. Is it a bug with wefwef?

[–] Lasso1971@thelemmy.club 8 points 1 year ago

I think it's related to servers giving you an error message when posting a comment due to load, so you hit post again. Afterwards it turns out you have two comments because the first attempt actually worked

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[–] UWbadgers16@lemmy.world 41 points 1 year ago

I actually disagree. I love that it’s a lightweight web app.

[–] rylin@lemmy.world 38 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I’ve never really used a mobile web app before but I’m very curious to see what the dev can do with it and what the limits might be. So far it’s been great! Not being on the App Store means faster updates. If something breaks the dev can fix it much quicker. It’s also fully cross platform. You can also install it on any device regardless of Android/iPhone and have the same experience.

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[–] fer0n@lemm.ee 33 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

There are definitely advantages to native apps and I basically always prefer them, but wefwef is doing an absolutely amazing job and there are upsides to web apps as well (cross platform, updates, …).

I‘d probably also prefer having this app as a native app, but that means either wrapping it, which doesn’t give you many advantages, or rebuilding it entirely at which point you‘re using a different technology stack than the one people building this are so good at.

There are other people doing that and many of them have the same Apollo in mind while doing so. Let’s just wait and see what each one of them can do, I’m definitely excited :)

[–] chanunnaki@lemmy.world 25 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I think you mean: "It's so good it COULD be a native app"

[–] themizarkshow@lemm.ee 11 points 1 year ago

Came here to say this.

Without the restrictions of being on App Stores and going through reviews, devs can move so much faster. I feel like two or three times a day it tells me a new version can be grabbed, and it's caught up to and bypassed the alpha/beta apps from Testflight which get updated once a week (if lucky).

[–] TORFdot0@lemmy.world 22 points 1 year ago (1 children)

It would be nice if wefwef supported Push notifications but I don’t think PWAs support that in iOS. But that’s the only reason that I can think of that would be an advantage (besides ease of install and marketing)

But making wefwef dependent on a centralized App Store is kind of antithetical to the fediverse.

Most PWAs I would rather use the native app but wefwef is probably the second best PWA I have ever used

[–] Kronusx12@lemmy.world 17 points 1 year ago (1 children)
[–] TORFdot0@lemmy.world 6 points 1 year ago (1 children)

That’s awesome news. Nothing is really holding wefwef from being able to have feature parity with Apollo then

[–] archony@programming.dev 17 points 1 year ago (2 children)

People actually liked getting notifications from Reddit? That’s like the first thing I turn off when installing a Reddit app lol

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[–] FiftyShadesOfMyCow@lemmy.world 18 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Now, I’m not one of those programmin’ folks, but when the programmin’ folks say that a web based client works best, I’m gunna trust them folks, yessiree

[–] basskitten@sh.itjust.works 8 points 1 year ago

I am a programmin' folk, and I was even considering making a Lemmy reader for my own amusement, but wefwef is so good that I'm not going to bother. I wish I had time to learn React and the rest so I could contribute myself, but my brain is already full of frameworks and I'm afraid if I try to learn a new one, it will push out one that I actually need for my job.

[–] dlcook@lemmy.world 18 points 1 year ago (4 children)

As a web app I can (at least on iOS) rename it to something other than “wefwef”.

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[–] guybrush@lemm.ee 17 points 1 year ago (1 children)

As an obsolete ass Android phone user, thanks for web app. Looking good. Please add lemm.ee

[–] guybrush@lemm.ee 11 points 1 year ago

Ok I found the "other" server option now! Cool.

[–] kelp_licker@lemmy.world 15 points 1 year ago (4 children)

I think it works perfectly as it is now except for the Safari bug where swiping back a page makes it refresh the page and force you back to the top of it. I guess there’s nothing the wefwef devs can do about it but damn it’s annoying.

[–] mingistech@lemmy.one 7 points 1 year ago (4 children)

I never experience what you’re describing. You installed the web app to your Home Screen as instructed and you’re not just using it inside Safari, right?

https://wefwef.app/settings/install

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[–] BURN@lemmy.world 15 points 1 year ago (4 children)

I’d definitely prefer an app. I’ve run into a lot of freezing, actions not registering and a bunch of other small things that aren’t problems in dedicated apps.

Whenever a dedicated Lemmy app pops up I’ll probably be changing over

[–] Coelacanth@lemmy.world 8 points 1 year ago

Yeah same here. Backspace being very laggy when editing comments is a major pain as well. Wefwef is my preferred app at the moment, but I'm waiting impatiently for the showdown between Artemis, Sync and Boost for my ultimate solution.

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[–] youthinkyouknowme@lemmy.dbzer0.com 15 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (2 children)

I'm amazed how well it works. Didn't know a PWA could be this good. The only thing that I really miss is being able to save posts to check later, because I hide read posts.

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[–] OR3X@lemm.ee 12 points 1 year ago

Dude, I didn't know PWAs could be so good. I'm running the OG Google Pixel and the performance is excellent!

[–] zahel@lemmy.world 9 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (3 children)

I mean it works great as is. What do you not get right now that you’d get as an app?

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[–] Kraven_the_Hunter@lemmy.world 9 points 1 year ago (6 children)

I still have it installed on my phone but have found it to be quite laggy when scrolling content so i don't use it much. I keep checking every so often in hopes that clears up though..

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[–] sennalonso1981@lemmy.world 7 points 1 year ago
[–] Cityshrimp@lemmy.world 7 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (3 children)

Mixed experience so far. Love the interface but for some reason the content fails to load at time even though it works on browser or Mlem. Case in point, this comment was made in Mlem because the community failed to load in wefwef. Hopefully this gets fixed.

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[–] jepolitsch@reddthat.com 6 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I can’t believe how well it runs on iPhone, way smoother than the Mlem TestFlight app. I think this wasn’t an option for Reddit 3pa because once you try to monetize, if it’s not on the App Store you’re getting steamrolled. Anyways since that doesn’t seem to be an issue here it seems like a great solution.

Would be interested to hear from the devs how they plan to expand in the future.

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