this post was submitted on 14 Jun 2023
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Feddit UK

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Community for the Feddit UK instance.
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so, i was wondering why i couldn't find outside communities by typing a direct URL (example: feddit.uk/c/@

https://join-lemmy.org/docs/en/administration/federation_getting_started.html

from the docs, i quote:

Fetching communities

If you search for a community first time, 20 posts are fetched initially. Only if a least one user on your instance subscribes to the remote community, will the community send updates to your instance. Updates include:

New posts, comments
Votes
Post, comment edits and deletions
Mod actions

You can copy the URL of the community from the address bar in your browser and insert it in your search field. Wait a few seconds, the post will appear below. At the moment there is no loading indicator for the search, so wait a few seconds if it shows "no results".

i have found that to correctly "link" a community across from another instance, i need to be:

  1. logged in on feddit.uk (this part is important)
  2. type !community@instance
  3. wait 5-10 seconds, even if it claims "no results". it will populate eventually

but i have also realised an important implication. this must work both ways! i was also struggling to figure out why feddit.uk communities weren't showing up on other instances, and this is why.

this means that if we want feddit.uk communities to be indexed on other lemmy instances, we need to be logged in on that instance, and then type !community@instance in that instance's search bar, and then our communities will be indexed. this could also be the case for kbin and other software

in other words, gogogo! get out there! our communities will not be seen if they have not been indexed by at least one user from that instance - and as a result, wont show up in other instances search bars until this is done. and we won't see outside communities either until we index them here too!

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[–] SleepingInTraffic 3 points 1 year ago (1 children)

First ever comment, here! This also works with kbin magazines, but make sure you're pasting the whole URL (i.e. https://kbin.social/m/AskKbin) or it won't find it. They were having issues with federation earlier so it might not be working 100% when you read this.

[–] clara 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

welcome :) and thanks for the heads up

[–] SleepingInTraffic 1 points 1 year ago

Thank you! And thank you for the guide, I wish it was around this morning to save me a lot of head scratching!

[–] Lubricate7931 2 points 1 year ago

Thanks for this. Been struggling through this bit also.

Not actually managed to sign up to any other instances yet.

[–] clara 2 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (2 children)

i wish to separately say that i think that requiring users to make a new account at every instance, just so they can do the first time linking of their community to the other instances is... extremely dumb. there needs to be an auto-discovery mechanism, because the regular search box wont pick up communities by keyword, until they have been already indexed on that instance.

to provide an example, if london@feddit.uk has not been indexed once on lemmy.world, then anyone typing "london" in the search box at lemmy.world wouldn't see london@feddit.uk, until at least one logged in user at that instance actively types "!london@feddit.uk", which... yeah. that's not good.

[–] christophski 3 points 1 year ago

Yeah very much seems like this defeats the purpose of discovery across instances

[–] juniper 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I’ve just logged in to my lemmy.world account and searched for / subscribed to some of the feddit.uk communities. I don’t have time to do them all right now but I’ll subscribe to more tomorrow from that account.

[–] clara 1 points 1 year ago

very nice, thanks :) i can do subscriptions for sh.itjust.works, but checking https://fedidb.org/software/lemmy, i can't do much more than that because i don't have accounts at all the places with locked signups