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How do you feel about the massive influx of users?

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[–] hydra@lemmy.world 39 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

It makes me hopeful for the future. Enthusiasts priming the pump for people embracing a more sustainable and less exploitative business model to organize the Internet. Instead of putting all the information on a big centralized locked down platform we share the load and costs between instances.

I love what is happening now, it is pretty much the biggest display of resistance against big tech I've ever seen in my life by a long shot. I've seen most of the internet gradually decay to a shadow of its former self so this is a return to form and a switch to a better model in the long run.

People are finally adopting the Fediverse and if the adoption rates keep up we might start going mainstream with all the advantages and disadvantages, but it will be alright since Lemmy is both federated and FLOSS. Lemmy is a Rust-based, AGPLv3 platform and that means it will be protected against corruption in the foreseable future, I hope.

EDIT: Over 30% of Reddit already went dark!

[–] kunday@lemmy.ml 13 points 1 year ago (4 children)

It’s close to 50 % now. You can watch the realtime stream here - https://reddark.untone.uk/

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[–] phoenixz@lemmy.ca 31 points 1 year ago (21 children)

12 years Reddit refugee here:

So far the concept is VERY promising but it still does all feel a bit wonky. Signing up was a headache and took me hours, sign in still sometimes work sometimes not.. A huge of development will be required to get lemmy where it needs to be to really compete with Reddit, but so far, I'm very hopeful and happy!

[–] MiracleDreamer@beehaw.org 10 points 1 year ago (4 children)

It is also very hard to subscribe to other server's community (or subreddit equivalent).

E.g.: i had account from beehaw, if i want to subscribe a channel from lemmy.world i need to see the list of community from lemmy.world comminity list, but I cannot subscribe from there because i dont have lemmy.worlda account. So i need to back to beehaw and search it again in community search bar.

In jerboa android, I didnt even see a way to search new community

Would be nice if there is a way to subscribe other server easily

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[–] SpookyMarie@lemmy.ml 30 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I just joined Lemmy because someone on reddit mentioned in it a comment on a thread regarding the blackout. It's kind of cool getting into a community while it's still relatively small. I'm excited to see how things grow.

[–] jazir5@lemmy.ml 15 points 1 year ago (6 children)

I hopped over here permanently tonight. Uninstalled boost on my phone, and I made Lemmy.ml my homepage. Reddit is just too depressing right now to keep it as my default.

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[–] dj3hac@sh.itjust.works 30 points 1 year ago

I'm a new user but I'd love to see this place explode in popularity!

[–] mostlyharmless@infosec.pub 25 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Tried Lemmy a couple months ago and tbh it felt dead, love this new influx just hope new communities keep popping up

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[–] Ataraxia@lemmy.fmhy.ml 25 points 1 year ago

Hope people have patience and stick with it. I have no interest in going back to reddit.

[–] FartsWithAnAccent@lemmy.world 22 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I like it, but I am part of the massive influx of users so I am admittedly biased.

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[–] hib@lemmy.sdf.org 22 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I've been hoping for a shift to decentralized social platforms for ages, so I really hope that's the direction things are heading.

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[–] blade_imaginato@lemmy.one 21 points 1 year ago (11 children)

As (another) reddit refugee, in order to compete with reddit, Lemmy needs to invest in its mobile apps, and make other servers easier to access.

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[–] dska22@lemmy.world 20 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I hope that lemmy makes it but I don't think that it will be easy because:

  • registering is far from straight forward. Before figuring out how to do it and which is the name of the app you need, lots of users will give up
  • I don't think that lemmy can scale well
[–] misterchief117@lemmy.ml 15 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

I agree with the scalability issues. Instance owners are going to run up against whatever they can afford to pay. If a given instance grows to a point where the hardware required to run it would be too expensive, then the admin has a choice: Donations, payment, and/or sponsorship.

All have their pros and cons.

Assuming "Lemmy" becomes popular (there's a ton of barriers preventing this so far). there's inevitably going to be consolidation between whoever can afford to support the largest instances.

Also, I think the most confusing part about the whole "fediverse" is that each instance is the entire "platform" of whatever it's trying to be.

This IMO creates massive fragmentation and a ton of confusion. Which one is the "authoritative" instance? Oh there's none? Oh...well...Hmm.

I'm sort of starting to think of it like this:

Reddit (or whatever fediverse whatever) is like a single shopping mall and the stores are subreddits. Each store needs a unique name.

Lemmy is like a bunch of shopping malls with each shopping mall having its own set of stores.

Stores within a single shopping mall must have a unique name, but can use the same name as a store in another mall. For example, you'd be hard-pressed to find two Foot Lockers in the same mall, but you're likely to find them in pretty much every mall you visit in the USA at least.

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[–] Jupa@lemmy.ml 20 points 1 year ago (1 children)

the reddit blackout is for like two days i expect that 90% of them will stick to the two days and business as usual afterwards. their bottom line is to continue running mods of their communities, even if they acknowledge that was is going on with reddit is bad. they shouldnt have announced a scheduled, limited blackout.

i expect some fringe communities to come here and stay but it will always be business as usual on reddit

therefore Lemmy needs to have a reason for people to stick around, communities offering something that isnt otherwise available, even just a refreshing change of community culture

[–] subigo@lemmy.ca 15 points 1 year ago (3 children)

Honestly it'll probably be closer to 99.999% of users will stick around Reddit. The largest Lemmy instance is smaller than the smallest subreddit I follow and I suspect that's probably the case for most people.

Here's what will happen... Reddit blackout starts, people come to Lemmy, 8 out of 10 are confused by the way things work and bail instantly. 2 out of 10 might stick around, try to sign up, but everyone hammers the top 3-4 instances and they have a bad first impression. A few days later everyone is back at Reddit and Lemmy is right back where it was a month ago.

I hope I'm wrong, but I doubt I will be.

[–] nLuLukna@sh.itjust.works 23 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (2 children)

I think that there will be people who remain on Lemmy permanently. This group will remain small, and insignificant. But hopefully there will be enough people to prop the instances up with content. At which point Lemmy will begin to grow slowly; this slow growth imo is the most important. But yeah alot of people will go back to Reddit and forget all about Lemmy. And that's ok.

[–] MoreIronOre@lemmy.ml 18 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

Small

Insignificant

I see you've been talking to my ex

[–] longshaden@beehaw.org 20 points 1 year ago (1 children)

this is the most redditish comment I've seen so far.

remains to be seen if that's a good thing or not, but I did chuckle over the familiar joke

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[–] moreeni@lemm.ee 13 points 1 year ago (4 children)

You're exaggerating, I can definitely see how Twitter users changed the general atmosphere of the Fediverse, at least on the instances that I have used in the past. As for Reddit, I think it will be something similar to that, not everyone is going to migrate but Lemmy is going to be significantly bigger, better and THE place to go if you want to ditch Reddit. Also, it's not like having a big portion here of social media audience is going to do a lot of good. I have serious doubts about people being able to give value to the community if they can't even figure out how to register on an instance other than the main one

[–] jlh@lemmy.jlh.name 12 points 1 year ago (4 children)

Yeah Reddit's core users are pretty technical. At least the ones who joined before the big popularity boom in the last 5 years. The old school redditors will probably end up on lemmy.

[–] fuser@quex.cc 13 points 1 year ago (9 children)

lemmy feels more like reddit once did than reddit does now.

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[–] Sarcasmo220@lemmy.ml 19 points 1 year ago (2 children)

I think the Redditors joining Lemmy will certainly change the culture, both for the better and for the worse. Comments got pretty toxic on Reddit while I feel like the toxic comments on Lemmy were rare.

BUT, that could be a sample size thing. I'm curious to see if the ratio of toxic comments per active user would have been the same.

[–] 777@lemmy.ml 25 points 1 year ago

More people = more problems I am certain but this is a social network and without people it will fail. We must all make an effort to be the change that we want to see in the world.

I don't foresee a problem in the immediate future aside from higher server load, but in terms of culture, only people who believe in a new social network will be willing to join.

In 5 years however when this is a great place to be, a large number of people will join who don't respect the legacy. The departure from Digg to Reddit felt like this too, I hope that the federation aspect will ensure this is longer lived.

[–] qprimed@lemmy.ml 17 points 1 year ago (5 children)

remember... federation is your friend. federation gives you the freedeom to change house (instance) and/or look for better communities on any other federated instance from your own instance.

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[–] empireOfLove@lemmy.one 18 points 1 year ago (3 children)

I am one of those influx.

I'm realllllly just hoping we don't choke the "main" instances completely to death before the lemmy backend can have some developer hours dumped into it to support better per-instance horizontal scaling.

[–] arcrust@lemmy.ml 11 points 1 year ago

Yeah. It's gonna be a rough first couple months. App development needs to catch up. Server support needs to catch up. Many subs need to figure out how to move over their communities. I'm tempted to start making communities and just copy-pasting the side bars and pinned threads, but Im not a mod for anything, so it feels like it'd be plagiarism.

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[–] Sponholz@lemmy.ml 15 points 1 year ago (8 children)

I honestly can't say about the influx. Since I'm part of it.

But man....

This does feel like home.

I was already loving Mastodon.

Honestly, the real question is:

What took us soo long....

I was lurking on Lemmy for a long time now read only mode, not signed up, but never had the urge to actually making an account.

I try not to have so many feeds where I'm active at once, to try and better manage the time I spend on this feeds.

Twitter and Reddit were the ones I engaged the most

Twitter became Mastodon and Reddit became Lemmy on that matter, so that I can focus on being active and helpful whenever possible.

So, what took me so long...?

Definitely something I will be asking myself for a while, since so far the experience here have something that reddit just don't. The quality over quantity aspect.

Finally...

Thanks for having me here, I hope I can contribute the best I can to maintain Lemmy awesome as it is. I don't post or reply like a madman, but I like to participate on constructive discussion every now and then.

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[–] Marko@lemmy.world 15 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Every time I hear ding, I start laughing. 😁

[–] Crocrodile@lemmy.ca 14 points 1 year ago (3 children)

Je trouve ça incroyable, je me suis inscrit ya à peine une semaine et les postes avaient genre 50-100 upvote max et la ça touche les 800. Puis c'est sympa de voir d'avantage de contenu.

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[–] SuitedUpDev@feddit.nl 13 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Just out of curiosity, where can I find those stats?

[–] Evolone@lemmy.ml 12 points 1 year ago

I’m super excited for the potential this has. Happy to be here and hoping to help build a great online community with you all!

[–] rockhandle 12 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

I'm not new to Lemmy, I've hung around here on and off a couple times since the start of the year. My biggest complaint about it for a long time was that many of the subs I was interested in were just dead or didnt exist on lemmy. With the new influx of users, I imagine that's going to change, even if it does take a couple more years.

The future of Lemmy is looking very promising :)

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[–] noisy@lemmy.ml 12 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Whilst I’m somewhat sad to be here (Reddit has eaten up a significant portion of my time over the past 10+ years), I’m happy to be learning new things and exploring a new way of doing things.

[–] kunday@lemmy.ml 13 points 1 year ago

I honestly thought this would reduce my screen time as Reddit is on the top of the list. But here I am at Lemmy lol.

[–] mr_pip@discuss.tchncs.de 12 points 1 year ago (5 children)

I just hope that it will be more distributed than Matrix and not everyone registers on lemmy.ml (matrix.org in case of matrix) so the decentralization works for real here instead of 90% (exaggerating, don't know the numbers) of the user base sitting on one instance :)

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[–] other_world@lemmy.ml 12 points 1 year ago (2 children)

I went from Digg to Reddit and now I'm looking for a new home. I'm really liking what I'm seeing here!

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[–] MavTheHack@lemmy.fmhy.ml 11 points 1 year ago (6 children)

I think honestly Lemmy just needs more mobile clients. Jerboa is ok, but third party clients are needed here like they are/were with reddit

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[–] danc4498@lemmy.world 10 points 1 year ago

As a newbie, I hope the software can catch up to the needs quickly.

[–] maegul@lemmy.ml 10 points 1 year ago (3 children)

A nice website for looking for servers, platforms, and user numbers over time is: https://fedidb.org/software/lemmy

Also handy for getting a picture of how many lemmy servers there are and how big they are.

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[–] Pilkitonion@lemmy.world 10 points 1 year ago

Ya love to see it.

[–] admin@lemmy-u3.vm.elestio.app 10 points 1 year ago (8 children)

I think we really need to address the scaling issue, one option could be to use clichhouse instead of postgres

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