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Gaming, news, tech, general literature. All of these are somewhat thriving, with a steady influx of posts and comments. At the same time, the userbase is sorely lacking for more niche communities. In my case it'd be stuff like poetry, yoga, religion, linguistics, meditation. Or many other communities I'd doubt they'd form a larger userbase here, at least to the degree that it'd foster good discussions. Communities where there are a larger amount of "normal people", that are not tech-aware, and who have no interest in migrating off centralized corporate solutions. That just want a large space to discuss what they're interested in.

This for me at least, makes it hard to completely leave reddit (or even Facebook and their groups!). Do you think the fediverse will ever reach the point where this would become a non-issue?

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[–] Pandantic@kbin.social 2 points 1 year ago

I found one of my fave communities on kbin, and it wasn’t active. So I am posting and checking for new posts every day to help it grow. I understand how you feel, but if you want it to happen you should try to be the change.

[–] PKMNLives@kbin.social 2 points 1 year ago

There are some niche communities on fediverse, speaking as primarily a Mastodon.art user. The hashtag system exists as a way of making a toot available for search, as most fediverse platforms don't have full text search. Hashtags essentially work like twitter hashtags but better.

Fediverse is better suited to niche communities, anyways. Feel free to make your own instance, but remember that running an instance is a huge responsibility: You have to suspend the bad actors, ban people who post hate speech, and generally ensure that your instance is running well. Admin work is psychologically stressful; just ask any of the reddit mods who quit over the API changes making their job impossible.

[–] aebrer@kbin.social 2 points 1 year ago

Interested in generative art? (Meaning art created computationally, not really AI art but art created using code)

If so all are welcome to join our feldgling niche community at kbin.social/m/genart

[–] PabloDiscobar@kbin.social 2 points 1 year ago

The instances of the fediverse are necessarily smaller than the reddit server, therefore you will have to search for remote communities on specialized servers. Or start your own.

If meditation concerns 0.1% of the population, then you will need 10000 accounts for each 10 meditation members, that would be 40 people on kbin. So you have to search on different instances, and maybe move to a different federation. Your main instance should be located where you live and then you search elsewhere for your niche interests.

[–] charcoalhibiscus@kbin.social 2 points 1 year ago

I miss bakingfails and the nail polish community :/

[–] AlteredStateBlob@kbin.social 2 points 1 year ago

Come joing us over on https://kbin.social/m/benignexistence :) It's quiet out there.

[–] hyperflare@kbin.social 2 points 1 year ago

My recommendation: Make the ones you care about the msot yourself :)

[–] ForestOrca@kbin.social 1 points 1 year ago

Redifugee here. I got here and created a community for Santa Fe, NM, USA (@SantaFe ), and another for Photobiomodulation/ Red Light Therapy (@photobiomodulation ). LoL, it's ain't much, but it's honest work.

[–] GataZapata@kbin.social 1 points 1 year ago

Be proactive :)

[–] W1ldW1ngs@kbin.social 1 points 1 year ago

Slowly trying to figure this site out!

[–] W1ldW1ngs@kbin.social 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Slowly trying to figure this site out!

[–] themadcodger@kbin.social 1 points 1 year ago

Don't worry, it'll all make sense in time. There are some great guides floating around if you haven't already found them.

[–] Gull@kbin.social 1 points 1 year ago (2 children)

I support the Fediverse but here is one of its problems that needs to be negotiated.

As an individual poster, if an instance bans you or defederates instances that you would like to communicate with, you can wander off to another instance. It's bad, but it's not the worst.

As a (prospective) moderator, you have to recognize the danger that an overactive instance admin will crack down on your sub or remove you as a moderator for editorial reasons.

Reddit is pretty slimy, but for years they were broadly hands-off from a moderator perspective. Reddit's recent actions show that a moderator can put decades of sweat equity into building and maintaining a community - and then get shut out capriciously, without communications channels or other tools to migrate any significant portion of that community. Start over from scratch.

The question for a prospective moderator is whether you can really trust the instance you're basing your new mag on. Most communities of any size will want insurance of having an instance they control or at least an instance that makes fairly strong assurances about moderator ownership.

If you're just driving by and you want to own the espresso machine universe on a particular instance, you can create /m/EspressoMachines and arbitrarily name a few other moderators and then wander off, but this kind of moderator is doing very little to grow or maintain the community. It's arguably irrational to commit to that kind of labor when the rug is likely to be pulled out from under you at any time.

[–] pupperino@kbin.social 1 points 1 year ago

Maybe in the future, moderators could vote to move a mag/subreddit/community to another instance and bring all their subscribers with them automatically. idk.

[–] TechnoBabble@kbin.social 1 points 1 year ago

I also wonder how many instances are just hosted on some old desktop sitting in a tangle of wires in the basement.

There needs to be durable instance backup/migration tools available to moderators of these communities.

I imagine that'll eventually get done with the limited dev time Lemmy is working with here, but it's still worth considering for a new community.

[–] TerabyteRex@kbin.social 1 points 1 year ago

If you help them , contact them, we can get them over.

[–] missingno@kbin.social 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Same here. As frustrated as I've been with Reddit for years now, what kept me there was that it was really the only place to get tailored news and discussions on my special interests. I'm still not gonna go back to reddit, but I don't know what I do instead.

I tried to set up a few magazines myself, but it's pretty clear there aren't enough people on this platform for me to find anyone who shares common interests on the things I want to talk about.

Feel like I'm just gonna be a hermit out in the mountains out of the loop on everything.

[–] missingno@kbin.social 3 points 1 year ago (1 children)

It also doesn't help that it's hard to even keep an eye on smaller magazines right now. As problematic as Reddit's algorithm was, one good thing it did was weight subs so that you'll still them on your frontpage, kbin does not appear to do this. Multireddits were also a very useful tool so I could bookmark a shared new queue for the ones I wanted to follow most closely, in a single tab I'd always keep open.

Hopefully these issues can be addressed.

[–] 50gp@kbin.social 1 points 1 year ago

popular posts having equally good chance to appear and stay in your subscribed feed no matter the size of the community is reddits best algorithm and it worked really well

[–] GiraftPunk@kbin.social 1 points 1 year ago

I created a home theater magazine (I think). Feel free to post there!

[–] Yert@kbin.social 1 points 1 year ago

I feel like the niche communities will come with time, so I'm not super worried outside of what happens to one specific writing community's audience, which matters a lot if you're a writer trying to build an audience, particularly if you don't want to wait a few years for the community you're been writing a book for to grow again.

What I'm really missing is the ability to browse /r/all, which will undoubtedly be harder with Lemmy/Kbin. Having something that can aggregate those well is going to be super important for federated communities to snowball together.

[–] Animortis@kbin.social 1 points 1 year ago

Join us at kbin.social/m/Battletech

[–] SunburyStudios@kbin.social 1 points 1 year ago

We need a technical backend and all my technical subs. IT, Python, Unreal Engine, Unity3D,

[–] Gargleblaster@kbin.social 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

There is the Fediverse, and there is kbin.social. I'm not even sure how to see what niche communities are out in the Fediverse. You'd have to go through each instance to see what magazines/communities (these are referred to differently in different places) exist out there. Is there a or could there be a directory of sorts to list your magazine/community so that others can find it?

I feel confident in saying we should not be planning to host every single community on kbin.social.

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