A very interesting insight into the psychology of the tankie, and a good explanation why they so quickly stop attempting to state facts in support of their cause, because it isn't based on them, but instead on pure unadulterated juvenile feelings.
this post was submitted on 07 Oct 2023
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It’s notable how the theme is always “Russia and China are great but the US very, very bad!!”. Not based on any defensible logic or facts though.
Ah yes,
We will never side with Ukraine, because we know America is not fighting for good.
This is a very normal and natural post for someone to make.
Critical support for genocide of Ukrainians, clearly. We're just too liberal-fascist to understand the broader picture of how a capitalist oligarchy genociding civilians in pursuit of imperialist aims is Good For Socialism, Actually
How is supporting Russia Good For Socialism?
Fucking got me. Tankie 'logic' generally starts with the axiom of "America bad" and reaches insane conclusions from there.
US Bad
US hate Russia
Russia Good
Love how they always use a bunch of excuses to support Russia while ignoring the fact that Russia is doing and has done all the terrible things they complain about. But of course they refuse to admit their crimes even happened, regardless of evidence.
I've been on the internet for a long time. Seen plenty of gore, plenty of horrific stuff. But nothing that will stick with me the way some of the Ukrainian War footage will. God help them over there. I can't even imagine what it's like living under the shadow of those atrocities, much less experiencing them.
For that reason, I have no sympathy for tankies who play 'both sides' or 'critical support' games. It's genocide apologism, nothing less.
For me, Cartel Footage is worse
I stay away from all of it, now. I tell people the same thing whenever they ask if they should check it out - if you ever feel like the Ukraine situation doesn't matter or that supporting Ukraine is unjust, check it. In all other cases, spare yourself the trauma-by-proxy.
Really saying the quiet part out loud, huh? Nothing deeper to the ideology than being anti-America, even if it means the destruction and genocide of third-parties. Because America bad, and nothing is ever more important than that.
It appears that the poster is a native Hawaiian, some of which whom are anti-colonial us/pro Hawaiian independence movement. In that case, yes they do hate America. I had the pleasure of taking a class with a pro independence Hawaiian woman who was 19 years old many years ago. This was in the mainland United States and not Hawaii. She repeatedly used racist terminology to disparage and attack the white student body of the very not Hawaiian campus.
It was kind of weird, tbh. But she was a very angry person in general and not pleasant to talk to you. Not that she would actually interact or talk to white people, mind you.
Sounds like she sure acted like an American
Hilarious that the screed they've typed is only protected under the First Amendment of the country they wish didn't exist. That last bit would get them jailed in Russia, and if they took a similar stance against the Chinese leadership, they'd be vacationing in a re-education camp before Thanksgiving.
Should send this in to the FBI, TBH.
lmao they won't do anything. tankies are some of the least threatening extremists out there, they are harmless.
Nah. I mean, the guy is unhinged, but US legal interpretations of freedom of speech tend to be very broad. "If I was next to the president right now I'd shoot him" was quite famously ruled as within the boundaries of freedom of speech back in the 60s, so I don't think "I HATE AMERICA SO MUCH THAT I SUPPORT GENOCIDE ABROAD" will get much traction.
He wrote this on a public forum from Hawaii. They prob already put him on a watchlist.
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We call it the Great Satan, and we aren't kidding when we say it. Sankara, Allende, Arbenz, the Spanish republicans, the Greek partisans, millions of Vietnamese, 20% of the population of Korea at least, Turning Libya from one of the most prosperous countries in Africa into a fucking slave state, ruining Iraq (who used to be the most progressive and prosperous countries in the middle east), Nasser in Egypt, the United Arab Republic, they killed fucking Malcolm X, and that's just a fucking taste. I'm not even joking, the crimes of the US against communists (real and not) and true freedom, are too numerous to mention without wasting several thousand pages. So excuse us for taking a small bit of glee in watching, as someone finally takes direct action against the US and its NATO allies. As someone on a similar power fights the US directly for the first time since 1991. As we watch their war machines explode on the field. As we watch the colonies liberate themselves. As we watch the Empire die from their blunders. We will see every downed plane as glorious vengeance. Every billion dollars wasted in futility as a bit of sooth to the losses of 91. Every Wunderwaffen tank be shredded, instead of rolling over weaker powers like in Iraq and Afghanistan. The last cries of the soviets, while killing itself, also strikes the face of the American beast. The last cries of Marxism Leninism's greatest project draining the Empire and its vassal. The final strike to begin the collapse was stricken by the consequences of its own actions. China and Russia, corpses of our past, are using our weapons to finally kill it. Our only regret is that the Soviet Union itself isn't killing the USA and Europe. My nation of Hawaii was stolen from the Hawaiian natives, and now they are supposed to be grateful. To wait. To expect for you to deign to give them back the home you stole. TO WAIT FOR THEIR RIGHTS! EVERY DAY I SEE AMERICANS PILLAGE THIS LAND! BURN THIS LAND! POISON THIS LAND! Its not even mine, but that doesn't lessen my hatred. What Russia and China have done is pennies next to the crimes of America. Especially to communists. Now we may vary on Russia, and we may debate the war, but we are united on this: The day we side with America will never happen, ever. America and the Nazis are the eternal enemies of the Communists. We will never side with Ukraine, because we know America is not fighting for good. Because America is interested in using blood to whet the wheels of its imperial machine. If there is no one who hates America on this earth, it means we are no longer on this earth. I will never hate any nation more than the USA, it is almost impossible. I hate it so much that I stopped being suicidal because I had to see it die. One day my fear of death will be overshadowed by my hatred of America. My ideology can be described as anti American and anti fascism in its entirety. If it hates American and fascism, I am immediately sympathetic. If it turns its guns on America or its vassals, I am immediately sympathetic. I sided with communism because that is what America fears most. I side with communism because that is what fascism fears most. America is the primary source of fascism, it is the fortress of capitalism. I believe in it for more than that now, but it is still a core of my being. Russia is an enemy, one that I will rejoice to see fall to a socialist revolution. I seethe every time I see it remembering the world we lost. I hope for the death of every single leader in office. I hope or the purge of the traitors in the KPRF. I see it and wish for a rebirth of a nation I know will never come back. I have no allegiance to it But America... I don't want it to fucking exist. In any form.
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