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I see more and more (I assume young) people that are bootlickers on r/piracy that I'm wondering the following.

IF, the real productive people, like the mods on that sub like db0 for example, come here, and there is still people there is it really important to have a sub there?

You see, if there is no productive conversation going on that sub, because the people who are productive came here, that sub will die off, but slowly.

At least we got rid of the bootlickers, right? Also, as always piracy always gets banned, if a site gets too big, too mainstream. r/piracy was mainstream. It's better if that sub is the frontpage of piracy, but the real important things are happening here.

My request for the mods: Next time, when there is a need for an update of the megathread, don't update there. No need. Just do it here. It helps lemmy more that way.

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[–] Mugmoor@lemmy.dbzer0.com 49 points 1 year ago (3 children)

This is what is going to inevitably happen with most technical subreddits. All the power users who contributed the most are either gone or leaving.

Reddit will be no better than Quora in a few years.

[–] DarkTides@lemmy.fmhy.ml 20 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Noticed there's a lot of geeky people on lemmy, and so many seem to be using stuff like linux in threads asking what OS do you use. Which is definitely a big outlier from the average user. So seems like even if the numbers aren't high that there's a lot of people who can provide tech support to dumb people like me.

[–] Xanvial@lemmy.one 19 points 1 year ago

Just like early reddit

[–] dudewitbow@lemmy.ml 13 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Because its people who are geeky who tend to be more willing to try something new and not use the default. Wouldnt be suprised if the average 3rd party app user was on average, more technicly inclined than the average official app user. Its automatically true for the mods given having access to more tools via 3rd party.

[–] FediFuckerFantastico@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I'm pretty "stupid" as well when it comes to online literacy, it's definitely challenging me to use Lemmy (I'm on Jerboa right now, gonna try some other apps like Wefwef and Sync when it comes out to see how I like them) but I really like the community and the potential here. I'm gonna have to learn how to do a lot of new things here, like figure out the extent of where my log in works, how to organize the instances I want to go to and be a part of, and how to search through this content. But I'd rather get on the ball now so I can fully integrate and leave Reddit behind. It already felt like a cesspool before Spez did his thing, and it's getting worse by the minute now that the 3rd party apps are down

[–] Baylahoo@lemmy.world 3 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I tried Jerboa first and now I'm on connect. I like them both but I think I'll stick with connect. It might be worth a look.

[–] DigitalTraveler42@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I tried Jerboa then Connect as well, Connect is definitely the superior of the two, I'm hoping for Connect to become more like RiF, or something else that will, but connect is good enough for now.

[–] Baylahoo@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago

Yep I get it. Everything is early and has room for improvement. I am impressed with how well made these apps are with how new they are. Way back with the start of 3rd party reddit, it was sometimes pretty rough compared to where it got. That said, the completely unfriendly and abhorrent interactions those apps had to deal with since reddit has some shaky coding might explain the struggles. I know nothing about Lemmy on that front, but there's clearly devs who care and have used prior knowledge to skip some pains.

[–] HeavyRaptor@lemmy.ml 6 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Quora was great for a while and then one day I suddenly realised how much garbage was being pushed down my throat... Or at least that's how I remember it, I never looked back after leaving

[–] Gsus4@lemmy.one 3 points 1 year ago

I think the only widely used site that has miraculously avoided enshittification has been wikipedia, because of a rock-solid ethical foundation.

[–] empireOfLove@lemmy.one 3 points 1 year ago

Bold of you to assume it's any better than Quora right now.

[–] _ENTER@lemmy.dbzer0.com 48 points 1 year ago (2 children)

If you're like me you don't give a single shit about the whole Reddit - Lemmy discourse and you only care about freedom of speech and discussing online piracy, which is more than just free videogames.

Grow up, don't pick fights and seed.

[–] ipkpjersi@lemmy.one 18 points 1 year ago

I think it's important to care about the fact that Reddit and especially it's users are being squeezed dry by a profit-hungry CEO with a net worth of already more than 10 million. Reddit is becoming bastardized and that's not a good thing, we should be talking about that and protesting that, and realistically just moving away from that.

[–] gjghkk@lemmy.dbzer0.com 7 points 1 year ago

You are actually right.

[–] sourcery@lemmy.one 34 points 1 year ago

I don't think it really matters in the long run. After that site goes public and they try and appeal to advertisers, that subreddit and NSFW in general will become unpalatable to advertisers for not being 'brand safe' regardless of legality of simple discussions. It might take a few years but migration is inevitable.

[–] idlenonsense@lemmy.fmhy.ml 33 points 1 year ago (2 children)

R/piracy is dead to me. Let those barnacles cling to a sunken ship. Agreed. Don’t update anything over there. Real pirates will end up here one way or another.

[–] downhomechunk@midwest.social 8 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Does that mean I'm a real pirate?!?

[–] DarkTides@lemmy.fmhy.ml 10 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Pirates adapt or die. So at the very least you have increased your chances of survival. Don't know if sharks will eat you though.

[–] downhomechunk@midwest.social 3 points 1 year ago

eh, i'm actually an old man. i started pirating on local BBSs with my 33.6k modem. that's longer than a lot of folks on r/piracy have probably been alive.

[–] sabonote@lemmy.fmhy.ml 2 points 1 year ago

That shit has only memes

[–] ram@lemmy.ca 25 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I agree; r/piracy could essentially be the proverbial Mattress Store to this community’s Mafia.

[–] Sharpiemarker@feddit.de 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)
[–] Flax_vert 15 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Essentially mafias would run a mattress store which rarely would get much business as a front to explain where their money is coming from. Same with american sweet shops in the UK, some phone repair shops, car washes, etc

[–] Lileath@lemmy.blahaj.zone 5 points 1 year ago

In germany it seems like a lot of döner"restaurants" and hairdressers are in cahoots with local gangs, I cant explain otherwise why there sometimes are three or more of them almost next to each other without going bankrupt. Like, in a street near my home there are three hairdressers all less than twenty meters from each other.

[–] Sharpiemarker@feddit.de 1 points 1 year ago

Thanks for the explanation!

[–] MonkCanatella@sh.itjust.works 15 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Probably what will eventually happen is that content from here will get regularly reposted over there

[–] gjghkk@lemmy.dbzer0.com 6 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Really doubt that, but what we can do, what they can't do that there is to help people more in a direct way here. Questions, requests, we can give links encoded in base64 so basically help people out in a better way.

I doubt the new mods that are there want to help piracy related things there, because that wouldn't help reddit admins.

[–] B3_CHAD@lemmy.dbzer0.com 14 points 1 year ago

True man I have come across more useful posts on lemmy in the past few days than reddit in a month or two.

[–] roht@lemmy.dbzer0.com 5 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

Reddit essentially wants to profit off of user-generated content, and once a critical mass of users decide to leave or just not make content it will stagnate and dwindle in popularity. People are acting as if this hasn't happened before. It has: 2009-2010 was when an exodus of users from the past dominant social aggregator Digg formed a critical mass and happened upon Reddit.

[–] gjghkk@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 1 year ago

The only important thing to these platforms like reddit and now lemmy is the content. If there is valuable info here, people will stay. If there isn't then it will fade away.

[–] DS_Griffin@sopuli.xyz 2 points 1 year ago

I second the megathread part. Abandon the old one so if anyone needs updated guides they will have to come here.

[–] Sterben@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago

Just forget about reddit.

I don't care anymore to be honest. r/piracy was not and will not be the frontpage of piracy, and neither c/piracy will be.

This is just for convenience and chatting, nothing more. If you need any information, you can find everything online (for example: best torrent website).

Again, if you forget about r/piracy, you would not need to worry about it being active or not. Just focus on making this place better.

Finally, it is obvious that people will split between reddit and lemmy, but it doesn't matter much imo.

Don't take my comment wrong, it is just my opinion, and I am sure many will differ from me.

Take care! 🏴‍☠️

[–] Frosty@lemmy.dbzer0.com 0 points 1 year ago

Amazing idea, they should 100% do this.

[–] Frosty@lemmy.dbzer0.com -1 points 1 year ago

Amazing idea, they should 100% do this.

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