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Maybe life is just an accident each time.

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[–] BrikoX@vlemmy.net 14 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I'll leave you with one of my favorite quotes.

„We are going to die, and that makes us the lucky ones. Most people are never going to die because they are never going to be born. The potential people who could have been here in my place but who will in fact never see the light of day outnumber the sand grains of Arabia. Certainly those unborn ghosts include greater poets than Keats, scientists greater than Newton. We know this because the set of possible people allowed by our DNA so massively exceeds the set of actual people. In the teeth of these stupefying odds it is you and I, in our ordinariness, that are here.We privileged few, who won the lottery of birth against all odds, how dare we whine at our inevitable return to that prior state from which the vast majority have never stirred?“ - Richard Dawkins, Unweaving the Rainbow: Science, Delusion and the Appetite for Wonder

[–] rtxn@lemmy.world 5 points 1 year ago (1 children)
[–] BrikoX@vlemmy.net 2 points 1 year ago

Definetely!

[–] ThinlySlicedGlizzy@lemmy.world 5 points 1 year ago (1 children)

You were born for whatever reason you want. If you think you're here for spiritual or religious reasons, so you can make the world a better place, or for nothing, that's all ok. I personally believe I'm here for religious reasons but if you don't agree with that it's fine. There's no point in wasting time fighting over why we're here instead of spending what little time we have enjoying ourselves. Even if we don't have any purpose and are just going to dissapear back into the void we came from we just make it worse by sitting around doing and crying about it.

[–] aeternum@kbin.social 1 points 1 year ago

Personally, I don't believe in religion or spirituality or whatever. I feel like we're just here to fuck and reproduce.

[–] MiddleWeigh@lemmy.world 4 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

It's what you make it, and that's the hard part.

I believe we are all one thing really. Apart of just oneness, and energy doesn't just go away, it dissipates through all things, like puddle in puddles. It's big nothing, and everything, or both or neither, whatever you want. Consciousness is a weird and uncommon state of matter in an empty sea.

You can see divinity spinning your every thought if you truly wished it. But even that doesn't really matter, depends how you feel I suppose and what meaning you attribute, if any.

That's the whole fun. I've learned to appreciate the hell out of it, that's for sure.

[–] Noxvento@lemmy.world 4 points 1 year ago

You were born because for parents made love. Your purpose is to live the life you want.

[–] angrystego@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago

Do we need to feel privileged for being born? Can't we just be born and that's it? It feels truthfull to me not to imagine comlicated scenarios around it.

(I suppose the answer is yes, we do need to feel privileged, it probably helps us psychologically, that's what a lot of the religious stuff is about.)

[–] DocMcStuffin@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Maybe it is, maybe it isn't. What would it change? Or maybe we should ask, how would your actions change if life was an accident? Would you do something differently? Why?

[–] mycall@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago

You are indeed asking the right questions, if there were any.

[–] szczur@kbin.social 2 points 1 year ago

Life is what we make it. Individually and collectively. It's a challenge, but a really fun one.

[–] RightHandOfIkaros@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Life isn't exactly an "accident." Your parents had to make a deliberate choice to have sex. Now, there is some sort of probability involved in the chances of pregnancy, which sperm cell creates a new person, and that new person actually surviving all the way to birth and beyond. But ultimately I wouldn't call life an "accident" outside of some very specific scenarios involving the parents. Your parents chose to create a new person, and that new person was you.

The purpose of life? Who's to say? Ask ten people and you'll get ten different answers. Some people spend their entire lives trying to answer that for themselves, others ignore it entirely. It's a question only you can determine the answer for yourself. But my answer to the question will likely be entirely different from your answer.

[–] RickRussell_CA@lemmy.world 5 points 1 year ago (1 children)

But ultimately I wouldn’t call life an “accident” outside of some very specific scenarios involving the parents.

We spilled chocolate milk on our clothes then decided to put them in the wash. Then I decided to do some roller skating around the house while your mom did her aerobics routine, and, well, let's just say there was a collision.

[–] RightHandOfIkaros@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago

"Oops, it accidentally slipped in."

[–] clockwork_octopus@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago

Maybe I’m just being semantic, but people don’t always make a deliberate choice to have sex (particularly women), and the vast majority of the time that people have sex, they’re not necessarily choosing to create a baby. It’s just sex.

There’s a huge difference between creating a baby and choosing to have a child, and that’s an important distinction.

[–] Carnelian@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago

It may be just a meaningless accident, we really can’t prove otherwise. But if you radically accept that, you can embrace life for the things we can know about it. It feels good to go outside, to eat, to fall in love. It hurts when your dog dies, or when your friends drift apart. It may not all have a deeper meaning, but it is real. It’s you.

[–] Psynthesis@vlemmy.net 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I don't know my friend, but you reminded me of this great song. Enjoy. https://youtu.be/9UaJAnnipkY

[–] Sir_Osis_of_Liver@kbin.social 1 points 1 year ago

I'm glad I'm not the only one whose mind went there.

[–] tallwookie@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago

technically, you were born to die. you're just not there, quite yet.

[–] blackbelt352@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago

Thats one of the big questions throughout all of philosophy.

I'm pretty sure every major philosophical movement has tried to tackle that question and all came to different conclusions.

The answer entirely depends on which philosophical framework you resonate with. Many religious philosophies will talk about how life is a divine spark and inherently worth living, or your life should be spent trying to do good to get a better reincarnation.

Others will start with the meaningless and irrationality of the universe and draw various conclusions from those, many of those conclusions are some flavor of "we make our own meaning" (which nihilism and absurdism sound a bit like your idea of life being an accident every time)

A lot of Greek philosophers, talked about our purpose was living virtuous lives but had different ideas what that "virtuous" entailed.

I'm not well versed about various eastern/Asian philosophers, but the big names that come up are Confucius, Lao-tzu, and Siddhartha Gautama.

[–] Geek_King@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago

“I do not fear death. I had been dead for billions and billions of years before I was born, and had not suffered the slightest inconvenience from it.” ― Mark Twain

[–] dumples@kbin.social 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

The idea of having a singular purpose in life is something that certain people are selling you. When you hear people talk about "their purpose in life" they are almost always trying to sell you to join something they deem are important. Most people purpose in life is to enjoy life and live. This can be just enjoying a day to day life doing things you enjoy. So yes you were born to be alive and enjoy it

[–] SpaceNoodle@lemmy.world 0 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

I've determined that the only purpose we can have is to create as much art as possible before we expire.

[–] CapitalismsRefugee@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I like that. I've not drawn my personal philosophy so explicitly but if I did, I think it would be a lot like that.

[–] SpaceNoodle@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago

I'm old, frustrated, and burnt out. My own art is terrible, but I have the resources to enable other artists, and I've decided that it counts.

I'd start a cult about it, but I'd rather just make sandwiches and play video games.

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